All Hail Lady Sheaffer!

[Hugh200au]

HI Cuza,

I'll have to put the bit about the clip on my 902 notes, which I have listed as "basket weave" pattern,gold skripsert nib (most people call them a Triumph though) and a coloured section ( light blue). How would you describe that finish and does it have a coloured section and a gold nib as well? The "cap band" is rather subdued compared to some L.Sheaffers!! Yet another interesting find, I wonder if Terri has one of those...

 

Regards

Hugh

 

Hugh,

 

I've attached a photo showing the black section and the 14K nib. I don't know what pattern Sheaffer used on the 903. An auction description I recently saw for a 903 BP referred to it as a "lattice" pattern.

 

http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae250/smuckers8/LSheaffer903.jpg

 

 

Any additional information would be welcome.

 

-- cuza

 

Thanks Cuza, "lattice" works for me!! The only info I can provide is that it is pre-1972 (if my memory is correct..) as the "skripsert" nib was discontinued then and the semi inlaid "stylepoint" introduced. On that basis your pen is at least 38!!, and still in excellent health and great shape (clearly a non drinker and non smoker with a good diet....)

 

Thanks

Hugh

[coyotewhisper]

Nice set of pens. Your photography is great. This is a fine example the boldness of Sheaffer fountain pens, always thinking outside the box.

[terim]

The finish on the 903 might be called "moire" because it looks just like the finish Sheaffer used on the desk pens what went with the Lenox bases. Is it smooth to the touch, with all the finish/design under the surface?

 

From my further research, it looks like these pens started with Triumph nibs when they came out in 1972 and then were all switched to the Stylpoint nib.

 

I hadn't seen Joe's image --- awesome! I'll be getting some of those gold flamme models in shortly, and I can't wait to see them. I've had the 925 for a while and it is really nice looking.

 

TERI

[cuza]

The finish on the 903 might be called "moire" because it looks just like the finish Sheaffer used on the desk pens what went with the Lenox bases. Is it smooth to the touch, with all the finish/design under the surface?

 

From my further research, it looks like these pens started with Triumph nibs when they came out in 1972 and then were all switched to the Stylpoint nib.

 

I hadn't seen Joe's image --- awesome! I'll be getting some of those gold flamme models in shortly, and I can't wait to see them. I've had the 925 for a while and it is really nice looking.

 

TERI

 

Teri,

 

The surface of both the FP and the BP are smooth to the touch. It is like there is a thin acrylic coating covering the pens, hence the uniformly shiny surface. I've heard a date for the 903 as 1968. Do you have good information to the contrary?

 

-- cuza

[terim]

Hey Cuza-

 

That sounds exactly like the finish on the Lenox base desk pens ..... like there's a woven gold fabric under the surface.

 

Lambrou dates the 903 to 1968, so I think you are right on the money.

 

TERI

[gee09]

Hey Cuza-

 

That sounds exactly like the finish on the Lenox base desk pens ..... like there's a woven gold fabric under the surface.

 

Lambrou dates the 903 to 1968, so I think you are right on the money.

 

TERI

 

Hi Teri,

 

I've just taken a look at a Sheaffer Service Manual and it lists the 901,902 and 903 available in 1971 only, not sure if this was the case. I have no catalogues to speak of from 1962 to 1978 to find out for sure, I would say the finish on the 903 is Moire.

Cheers

Gary

Edited April 27, 2010 by gee09

[MLKirk]

 

Hi Teri,

 

I've just taken a look at a Sheaffer Service Manual and it lists the 901,902 and 903 available in 1971 only, not sure if this was the case. I have no catalogues to speak of from 1962 to 1978 to find out for sure, I would say the finish on the 903 is Moire.

Cheers

Gary

Gary, you anticipated my next question. I don't have any catalogs of the late 60's & 70's that document these Ladies. Would love to see such catalog data if anyone out there has catalogs of all these 70's pens. I know the 1959 catalog exists for the earlier Lady Sheaffers Skripsert models but haven't seen anything on these yet. Chime in if you have anything.

[terim]

The model number of the gold on gold "flamme" model is 921. I just got a bunch and that's what's on the stickers.

 

TERI

[PenHero]

Teri,

 

Where in the world are you sourcing all this really interesting NOS Sheaffer stuff?

 

Wow!

[terim]

Hey Jim-

 

I'd tell you, but then I'd have to kill you. And it would be a horrible loss to the Sheaffer community!

 

As soon as this vein is mined out, I'll share the story.

 

TERI

[kudzu]

I have always avoided cartridge pens. But over time, I've ended up with a small handful. Your photos are wonderfully helpful in id'ing what I have, but I'm still at a loss for some of them. (And I don't know why my photos don't actually show up as they have in the past, now there's just links.)

 

 

Top pen is a sterling silver with a lovely diamond pattern, cartridge with an inlaid nib. What is it? I have a larger, man's size(?) one very similar to this more petite pen.

Pen 2nd from top is a Ladies Model 925, from this thread's comments. It's a cartridge pen, with a style-point nib (slightly tweaked, but writes fine). Anyone know what the name for the finish is?

Pen 3rd from top is a likely a Sheaffer school-grade pen; has a gold-colored Triumph nib; cap has "wavy" lines; lightweight pen, but writes well.

Pen 4th from top is the one that gives me fits to id. I originally thought it was a Sheaffer Imperial Gold Fluted, but since I just saw Terim's uploaded 1992 Sheaffer White Dot Catalog, I'm thinking it is a Sheaffer Triumph Model 797; came in set with a ballpoint that has a "reminder clip." Came with cartridge & c/c which I've installed. It has a wonderful B nib.

Pen 5th from top: could this actually be a Targa? I have several, but this didn't strike me as one, again, until I saw Terim's 1992 catalog; looks to be a Targa with the Diamond Cut pattern, Model 71? Cartridge fill, nib isn't like any of my other Targa inlaid nibs - I don't know what to call this nib.

Bottom 2 pens are Lady Sheaffer Skripserts, Tulle pattern in Mandarin & Black I believe. Strange that the Mandarin pen has a silver clutch ring & a SS Triumph nib which seems to clash with the gold wire diamond Tulle pattern while the the Black pen has a 2-tone Triumph nib with gold trim rings.

 

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4098/4756449940_2b118e5df1_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4074/4755814763_cca571b6a4_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4077/4755839755_2a46feda4f_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4079/4756472404_e567f211b2.jpg

 

 

Any help on id'ing Pens 1, 3, 4 & 5 would be greatly appreciated.

 

[edited to add, my Flickr photo links aren't working for me...more research...aaargh!

edited again to say: I continue to get FPN error msg that says "You are not allowed to use that image extension on this board." Am seeking answers, will post pics when I can get this to work.

Last edit: looks like Flickr is changing to a "new photo page" so I opted back to the older one & pics loaded ok.]

Edited July 3, 2010 by kudzu

[Readymade]

#1 is an Imperial. This one perhaps? http://www.sheaffertarga.com/Imperial%20and%20Triumph/Sterling%20silver%20diamond%20pattern2.html

 

#3 - Could it be a Skripsert Deluxe? http://www.richardspens.com/?page=ref/glossary/S.htm

 

#5 - A Sheaffer TRZ? Most eyecatching btw.

[gee09]

Hello Kudzu,

 

I think your pens are the following ones,

 

No1 - Silver Imperial.

No2- Could be a Lady Sheaffer 925 Rhodium Flashed Barleycorn pattern(1978)?

No3 -"875" Sheaffer Cartridge - Model number C9W-19 I think in Vermillon.

No4-Imperial "797", later called Triumph "797".

No5-Fashion 271 Diamond Cut pattern in 23K Gold Electroplate.

No6- Lady Sheaffer XIV Skripsert Tulle pattern in mandarin red with matching gripping section.

No 7- Lady Sheaffer XI Tulle pattern black.

 

Cheers

Gary

Edited July 6, 2010 by gee09

[carroll]

Hi Kudzu,

 

If you ever feel the need to rid yourself of the Lady Sheaffer in red tulle or black tulle, I could come right over and help you clean house. I was hunting for the other colors of tulle pattern, since I have the gold and white version. I found your babies on Flickr, and now here! They are lovely.

[kudzu]

Wow! Lots of help id'ing my pens. I'm very grateful. I've been writing with them for over a week now and they all write wonderfully. I've always loved Sheaffer's inlaid and Triumph nibs for their ultra-smooth feel, and have sort of, unexpectedly, fallen in love with these smaller Lady-Sheaffer-size cartridge pens.

 

#1 pen - the consensus is this pen is a sterling Silver Imperial. It's truly beautiful, and delightfully balanced in my hand.

#2 pen looks to be in the Sea Spray design Gold Sea Spray -- since mine is silver-colored, I think it's a Model 925.

#3 pen - still not sure if it's the Skripsert Deluxe (thanks for the Richard Binder link) or the "875" Sheaffer Cartridge - Model number C9W-19 in Vermillon - or are they the same thing? Jonro in another post) said the Skripsert Deluxe had a "chased cap", that definitely fits what I have. I tried looking up "875" Sheaffer Cartridge - Model number C9W-19 without success. As I said, maybe they are the same thing?

#4 pen - Ok, this style pen went from Imperial to Triumph it looks like. Since the matching BP has the reminder clip, I'll assume my set is the Triumph 797 version.

#5 pen - another mystery solved! Yes, looks to be a Fashion Model 71 Diamond Cut with 23K electroplate finish.

 

Thanks to you both, Readymade and gee09. I really like knowing what pens I have.

 

Carroll, for now, I'm holding on to my Tulle-patterned Lady Sheaffers. Since it is such a pleasure to use them, now I'm looking to add some of the other colors to my little stable of Lady Sheaffers. I hope you enjoy yours, too.

[gee09]

Hi Kudzu,

 

Your correct your 925 Lady Sheaffer is called Sea Spray and the pattern is Flashed Barleycorn.

 

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/ab148/ge09/infocard1978.jpg

 

I think this could be your Cart Pen.

 

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/ab148/ge09/875cartpen.jpg

 

Here's a picture of the Diamond Cut Fashion Pens.

 

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/ab148/ge09/fashiondiamondcut.jpg?1278618206

 

Cheers

Gary

[kudzu]

Hi, Gary. Those posters are great. Just what I had been looking for! Thank you for finding them & taking the time to post them. The info will be very helpful for others, too, looking to identify their Lady Sheaffers.

 

You nailed the "875"Cartridge - C9W. Wherever did you find that poster/price list?

 

"Flashed Barleycorn" - AND "Sea Spray." I am so grateful to you for sharing this scan.

 

Yep, the Fashion Diamond Cut fp is the one I have.

Thanks again to everyone.

[CRB]

It appears from the 1978 product information card that Sheaffer called the 925 Sea Spray pattern 'barley corn'. That seems strange to me; I have the pen, and it's unlike any other barleycorn pattern I've seen. I'd call it a stylized tree bark pattern.

 

I believe the word 'flashed' goes with 'rhodium flashed', like 'rhodium plated', or 'gold washed'.

[gee09]

It appears from the 1978 product information card that Sheaffer called the 925 Sea Spray pattern 'barley corn'. That seems strange to me; I have the pen, and it's unlike any other barleycorn pattern I've seen. I'd call it a stylized tree bark pattern.

 

I believe the word 'flashed' goes with 'rhodium flashed', like 'rhodium plated', or 'gold washed'.

 

 

I totally agree with you the Sea Spray finish is nothing like a normal barleycorn pattern, I added flashed to the barleycorn for this reason. I think you right in thinking the 'Rhodium Flashed' is refering to the plating of the pen.

 

Cheers

Gary

[gee09]

Hi, Gary. Those posters are great. Just what I had been looking for! Thank you for finding them & taking the time to post them. The info will be very helpful for others, too, looking to identify their Lady Sheaffers.

 

You nailed the "875"Cartridge - C9W. Wherever did you find that poster/price list?

 

"Flashed Barleycorn" - AND "Sea Spray." I am so grateful to you for sharing this scan.

 

Yep, the Fashion Diamond Cut fp is the one I have.

Thanks again to everyone.

 

Hi Kudzu.

 

The picture showing the '875' pen is from a 1963 Sheaffer service manual.

 

Cheers

Gary