Ottoman Azure

[wimg]

Hi Denis,

 

But it is a very nice ink indeed...

 

Warm regards,

Wim

[Guest Denis Richard]

Hi Denis,

 

But it is a very nice ink indeed...

 

Warm regards,

Wim

Mission accomplished. Now, I challenge you to find a way to use that for your chart

[Guest Denis Richard]

I think he just spent some time in detention.

I've been detained for way too long inside the same brain

[Stompy]

You're right Wim. Plus, all I can make out is "Wahl All Metal Fountain Pen", over and over and over... I think he has a one-tracked mind maybe.

If he starts writing "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy" and holes himself up in a secluded hotel in the mountains...

 

<Sorry, Stephen King's lawyers just laid a Cease and Desist on me>

[Gerry]

When I first saw the exemplar it took me back to some wartime (WWII) letters penned to and from my uncle in POW camp. It was not uncommon to take a single page and write both directions to conserve paper. It was quite readable if you concentrated.

 

You don't appear to be of that vintage though Denis. Is Clairfontaine that hard to get where you are?

 

Cheers

 

Gerry

[wimg]

Hi Denis,

 

Mission accomplished. Now, I challenge you to find a way to use that for your chart

Hey, that´s easy, check out the bit I borrowed from NS. Just that it is too much work. I did ask for samples done in a specific way, you know, not just haphazard .

 

Kind regards, Wim

[KendallJ]

Again, with my superhuman colour-vision , Ottoman Azure, Legal Lapis and WMSS all have a noticeable green tint.

Leslie, I'd have to agree with all but Legal Lapis. It seems to me to start green when wet, but I've gone back and looked at samples that were dry, and darnit if it didn't look blue...

[Guest Denis Richard]

You don't appear to be of that vintage though Denis. Is Clairfontaine that hard to get where you are?

It's not even Clairefontaine. It cheap paper from work, on which I print a Seyes-like ruling. The spirit is more of writing anything to try a pen with a particular ink. As all of it is non-sense, and I always think the next word will be the last, I just don't want to use a new sheet... and it just all goes down from there

[Stylo]

You don't appear to be of that vintage though Denis. Is Clairfontaine that hard to get where you are?

Sorry to barge in, but Denis, I just remembered that the Stanford Bookstore used to carry, or at least carried at some point, Clairefontaine pads. It's a short trip from your workplace, and the technical section of the Bookstore alone is worth a visit. There is also a section where they have books in French, including some bandes dessinees for a trip down nostalgia lane I am saying this in the unlikely case you haven't visited that bookstore yet.

[Guest Denis Richard]

Stylo,

 

I actually haven't been there. Which is astonishing, considering that every time I drive on that campus, I get lost, discover new parts of it, new highways, etc... I should stop by next time I go to Stanford.

[Stylo]

I actually haven't been there. Which is astonishing, considering that every time I drive on that campus, I get lost, discover new parts of it, new highways, etc... I should stop by next time I go to Stanford.

Can't blameyou for getting lost there The Bookstore is close to the "Coffee House", which is right next to a public metered parking lot. If you park there, you can walk to the boookstore. They have a mini cafe upstairs (at least used to), or you can hang out at the Coffee House for some beer or coffee, especially if you are with wifey.

[wpblaw]

Hi NS,

 

Yay! One of my absolute favorite colours! The interesting bit about this ink is the shading characteristics. It goes from a light greyish blue, to proper blue to blue black and back again. This is an extremely lovely ink to use in flexible pens and with italic nibs.

 

Kind regards,

Wim

 

I'm completely addicted to Ottoman Azure. If it was bulletproof or even water resistant, I think I'd buy it by the gallon!

Edited May 14, 2008 by wpblaw

[JDlugosz]

Oh... I feel your pain Roy. I always see colors bluer than everyone else. It drives me crazy sometimes. I think the range of blue-greens is the most "polemic". It must be a range of color where human eyes vary greatly.

 

Check out this link I've saved.

 

I have "normal" color vision according to tests, but my family has accused me of being color blind because I don't always agree with them. I always had trouble using the blue pH test kit because the color doesn't match any of the test swatches. I'm nore sensitive to shades of blue I suppose, in that they all look different. Or, maybe I can't easily tell "between" in different blues, to put them in order.

 

Human vision is indeed the poorest at distinguishing blue, and there is something funny with the most extreme blue also tickling the "red" cones. Distinguishing colors better is also something that can be learned.

 

So, we pick out the perfect blue for writing, but what does the recipient make of it?!

 

--John

[Ghost Plane]

You're not alone. I hated the titration exercises in chemistry because I always saw color long before anyone else. Apparently I also see into the ultraviolet as I'll mark the edge of a color band using a prism to break out bands long past where most people say they see anything. Makes it difficult to describe colors to others when they're seeing something different

[JDlugosz]

You're not alone. I hated the titration exercises in chemistry because I always saw color long before anyone else. Apparently I also see into the ultraviolet as I'll mark the edge of a color band using a prism to break out bands long past where most people say they see anything. Makes it difficult to describe colors to others when they're seeing something different

 

Ah yes, I wonder if being more sensitive to UV is what accounts for difference in seeing blue. Either that or just being more sensitive in general, can detect lower amounts.

 

[Deirdre]

Ah yes, I wonder if being more sensitive to UV is what accounts for difference in seeing blue. Either that or just being more sensitive in general, can detect lower amounts.

One of the things I've learned while a member here is exactly why I so strongly prefer halogen lamps and bright colors: I really really NEED that view into the ultraviolet part of the spectrum. Everything looks dead without it.

[menick]

Wow, all that stuff about the fact that we don't have the same color "range" we see it totally new to me.

 

I'm freaked out! I have to get a prism and compare.

 

And all that discussion about the blue...

 

This may be why there is so much of a debate about legal lapis... some say it is a blue black, for me it is almost green...

 

Ghost Plane and Deirdre, you seem to be on the same UV edge... how do you see legal lapis?

 

nick that will go buy a prism at lunch time...

[Possum Hill]

You're not alone. I hated the titration exercises in chemistry because I always saw color long before anyone else. Apparently I also see into the ultraviolet as I'll mark the edge of a color band using a prism to break out bands long past where most people say they see anything. Makes it difficult to describe colors to others when they're seeing something different

Better keep it to yourself. People fear mutants.

 

In a college physics class the professor demonstrated that most of the students could see into the ultraviolet with some peculiar lamp that radiated at shorter wavelength than the normal visible spectrum.

 

How far above normal can you see, and what "color" is it?

[Deirdre]

Ghost Plane and Deirdre, you seem to be on the same UV edge... how do you see legal lapis?

Having recently seen Ethernautrix using LL in a very fine nib -- and it coming out much lighter -- many inks do just look different written wide or fine.

 

Legal Lapis is a dark teal. It's duller than I prefer. For my favorite color of ink (above all others), that'd be Private Reserve Blue Suede.

[dcwaites]

How wet a pen writes makes a great difference with how an ink looks on the page.

 

I now use a matched set of three Jinhao X-450s (from gotoschool888, $3 plus postage) for testing inks.

 

Case in point. My new Parker 100 (thanks, Pam Braun) was initially a smooth, but fairly dry writer. Ottoman Azure came out a light bluey-green.

I used Parker Quink with Solv-X for several days. With each day it wrote wetter and wetter, with more shading, until it stabilised.

I then rinsed it out thoroughly and re-filled it with Ottoman Azure. It now writes that ink as a dark blue with a green offset.