Some Urgent Advice Needed - Stipula

[wspohn]

She-who-must-be-obeyed has a death grip on one of my pens, a Parker Centennial with a stub nib that gives lots of line variation. She doesn't use it all the time but seems strangely unwilling to relinquish custody of it.

 

So I thought that I might pick up something else to lure her away from it, sort of like tossing a bit of hot dog into the cage to distract the lion so you can drag that sheep out of there.

 

I put a fairly low bid in on a Stipula Saturno, which appealed to me as I have an old Conklin crescent filler, and forgot about it, and by gum if I didn't win the thing.

 

Now I have to make a quick decision about what nib I want. I am torn between a 0.9 italic nib (I am not a fan of too broad a nib) and the '52' nib that Stipula has, about which I know next to nothing other than that it also provides significant line variation depending on the angle the pen is held at.

 

Can anybody help me here - have you used the '52' nib and is there anything wonderful about it compared to the caligraphy nib?

 

I have to make this a really attractive 'hot dog' if I am going to retrieve my ebony and ivory Duofold! :bunny1:

Edited August 22, 2006 by wspohn

[Richard]

The 52-degree nib's line variation only happens when you vary the pen's angle of elevation above the paper while you're writing -- steep angle, fine line; low angle, broader line. It's similar to the Sailor Zoom nib. I don't think you would like it, and if the pen is for SWMBO, I think it might prove even less attractive. Go for the italic.

[wspohn]

The 52-degree nib's line variation only happens when you vary the pen's angle of elevation above the paper while you're writing -- steep angle, fine line; low angle, broader line. It's similar to the Sailor Zoom nib. I don't think you would like it, and if the pen is for SWMBO, I think it might prove even less attractive. Go for the italic.

Very much appreciated, Richard.

 

SWMBO is also a leftie but I have learned not to try to accomodate that in my pen selections as she seems to manage pretty well. I guess if I got into some left obliques or something it might make it interesting for her.

[aunt rebecca]

hi,

do not get her a right oblique nib if she is an underhand lefty. see john mottishaw's site for the difference in underhand and overhand lefties. buy her a normal pen.

 

 

:)9 :)9 :)9 :)9 :)9

[Richard]

Bill, have her fill out the Nib Questionnaire on my site to see whether she should have an oblique.

[wspohn]

Bill, have her fill out the Nib Questionnaire on my site to see whether she should have an oblique.

I certainly shall - and I filled it out myself just to get an opinion on what nibs might be my cuppa tea.

[Dan Carmell]

I have the 0.9 MM nib on that exact pen and like it very much--although I am mostly a Fine nib person, it's a pleasant change and not at all overwhelming. Enjoy!

 

Dan

[TheNobleSavage]

I have the 52 Degree and a 9mm nib along with several other sizes of stipula nibs. I like the .9,mm Italic. It really is a wonderful writer that you cannot go wrong with. Stipula Italic nibs are very smooth with decent line variation.

 

The 52 degree nib, I find is a very broad nib and like the sailor zoom nib, it changes width due to angle. I like both nibs and I use the 52 as a change of pace but if I had to choose between the two, I would go with the .9mm italic.

 

If I had any choice, I would go with the 1.3 mm italic. These nibs are out of this world, they are very smooth with decent line variation and a total pleasure to use. They feel almost identical to the Bexley Stubs, same width and all.

 

As for the Saturnos, I have two of them. I have the light olive green and the dark ivy green. Both of them have 1.3mm italics on them. These are fun pens to use and it has a touch of vintage to them!!!

 

Let us know how it works out!!!

 

TNS

[tonydacrow]

I have a Stipula Saturno and a Stipula Rex that I recently bought. I love both pens and I'm sure you'll want to keep the Saturno for yourself.

 

My Saturno has the 0.9 mm italic and the Rex has the 1.1 mm italic nib. Believe it or not, the 1.1 writes a narrower line with more variation than the 0.9! I think alot of it has to do with the fact that the 0.9mm nib is much wetter than the 1.1, but it is rather freaky to write a broader line with a narrower nib.

 

Go figure!

Edited August 22, 2006 by tonydacrow

[wspohn]

I have a Stipula Saturno and a Stipula Rex that I recently bought. I love both pens and I'm sure you'll want to keep the Saturno for yourself.

You may well be right.

 

First, though, I want to ransom my Duofold Centennial and the only way I see to do that is to attract her attention to something else.

 

Later, I may be able to redirect her once again - she has been rather happy with some of the Parker 180s I've been giving her to try, and I might give her another favourite of mine, a Waterman CF, which can be really nice writers.

[John Cullen]

I too once lost custody of a duofold. It came back from Richard Binder with a cursive italic nib and I stupidly said, "Hey, you ought to try this. It is really a nice writer."

 

How I solved the problem. I ordered a yellow Filcao New Leader from Richard and the nib was glass smooth. My wife liked the color, especially when the pen was filled with black ink. So I casually said, "You can use the Leader and I will clean out the duofold and let it dry out. That needs to be done with pens now and then." Well, a shade of a lie but not too bad, really.

 

Enjoy your pens. I think that duofold needs to be cleaned out and dried properly for a few days.

 

j

[JimStrutton]

You may well be right.

 

First, though, I want to ransom my Duofold Centennial and the only way I see to do that is to attract her attention to something else.

 

Later, I may be able to redirect her once again - she has been rather happy with some of the Parker 180s I've been giving her to try, and I might give her another favourite of mine, a Waterman CF, which can be really nice writers.

I think you are making an error here Bill, you keep on referring to it as YOUR Duofold Centennial. Sorry but that pen is GONE

 

You can try to entice, but in the end you may have to buy another Duofold for yourself. Look on the bright side, you get to choose the nib and colour.

 

Jim

:ltcapd:

[Richard]

My Saturno has the 0.9 mm italic and the Rex has the 1.1 mm italic nib. Believe it or not, the 1.1 writes a narrower line with more variation than the 0.9!

This is the precise reason that I specify nib widths by the size of the line, not the size of the nib. My 0.9-mm italic draws a line 0.9 mm wide. if it's a crisp italic, the tip is 0.9 mm wide, but if it's a cursive the tip is about 1.0 to 1.1.

[Chris]

Jim,

 

I think you may be right. not only is the first pen gone, but the proposal is now to introduce the idea of more than one pen, which leads to rotation and that is another pen you won't see.

 

 

Chris

[wspohn]

Jim,

 

I think you may be right. not only is the first pen gone, but the proposal is now to introduce the idea of more than one pen, which leads to rotation and that is another pen you won't see.

 

 

Chris

I just handed her the Duofold to try and didn't get it back again.

 

I have decided on a multi-front assault.

 

I gave her a Sheaffer Balance as a birthday present (the one with stand with clock in it to sit on her desk).

 

I have just bought her a Sailor calligraphy pen so she'll have something to play with and a Hero 360 (an inexpensive - and more important available - version of the Sailor Trident, a 3 nibbed pen apparently just the thing for lefties).

 

When these geegaws show up I shall strew them in her path while grabbing the Duofold 'for cleaning' and see how I make out.

 

I did convince her to expose her sinister leanings by taking Richard's test to get some suggestions about what sort of nibs would especially suit her (over her suspicious objection that this might be part of a nefarious plan to justify further pen purchases)

 

I shall look forward to hearing what nibs suit her.

 

Psst - Richard - the Duofold has a broad stub nib - it might be a good idea to list broad stub as the absolute worst nib for this particular leftie....... :roflmho:

[JimStrutton]

Jim,

 

I think you may be right. not only is the first pen gone, but the proposal is now to introduce the idea of more than one pen, which leads to rotation and that is another pen you won't see.

 

 

Chris

I just handed her the Duofold to try and didn't get it back again.

 

I have decided on a multi-front assault.

 

I gave her a Sheaffer Balance as a birthday present (the one with stand with clock in it to sit on her desk).

 

I have just bought her a Sailor calligraphy pen so she'll have something to play with and a Hero 360 (an inexpensive - and more important available - version of the Sailor Trident, a 3 nibbed pen apparently just the thing for lefties).

 

When these geegaws show up I shall strew them in her path while grabbing the Duofold 'for cleaning' and see how I make out.

 

I did convince her to expose her sinister leanings by taking Richard's test to get some suggestions about what sort of nibs would especially suit her (over her suspicious objection that this might be part of a nefarious plan to justify further pen purchases)

 

I shall look forward to hearing what nibs suit her.

 

Psst - Richard - the Duofold has a broad stub nib - it might be a good idea to list broad stub as the absolute worst nib for this particular leftie....... :roflmho:

I dunno, but this sounds to me like the desparate thrashing of a drowning man?

 

:ltcapd: :ltcapd: :ltcapd: :ltcapd:

 

:roflmho: :roflmho: :roflmho: :roflmho:

 

Jim

[wspohn]

I dunno, but this sounds to me like the desparate thrashing of a drowning man?

Who - me?

 

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[Chris]

Bill,

 

The Balance with the stand and clock... very nice.

 

Oooh this is going to be expensive...

 

Lucky lady...

 

So far, my wife only has one of my pens, (who's pens?) but who knows where it might lead...

 

Chris

[Ruaidhri]

Bill, Bill, Bill -

 

Take Richard's advice concerning nibs.

Grab her arm.

Pull the Centennial towards you.

Kiss it goodbye.

Release arm.

Buy replacement.

Kiss goodbye to that AS WELL

 

Her Ladyship read this thread and retired to the West Tower helpless with laughter.

Clutching a case !

 

Here's one She captured:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/ruaidhri/She100.jpg

[Ruaidhri]

Oh and by the way here are a few more I've had oooo'd away from me :

 

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y59/ruaidhri/ShePens.jpg

 

Sheila - you'll notice the 35 in there !

Cam - Spot the Peli 750 !

Andy - Some Wahls

Denis - a Parkette

 

The list goes on.

 

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