Bottle ot cartridge?

[vebaev]

Hi,

soon I will have Danitrio Cumlaude Blue FP but in the ebay listing says cartridge/converter...so can I get a bottle of ink or it cannot wirk with it?

 

And other thing - is it difficult for a newbie to use ink ftom bottle? and are any differences in ink density/features between bottle and cartr.?

 

Thanks

Edited March 8, 2010 by vebaev

[tfwall]

Hi,

soon I will have Danitrio Cumlaude Blue FP but in the ebay listing says cartridge/converter...so can I get a bottle of ink or it cannot wirk with it?

 

Yes, a bottle will work but only if you have a converter, which is like a refillable cartridge. You plug the converter in and then draw ink in through the nib, by extracting a plunger through a variety of means.

 

 

and are any differences in ink density/features between bottle and cartr.?

 

For most inks, no; the bottle and cartridge are the same product just packaged differently.

[lapis]

Chemyst is of course right. Just let me point out 1-2 differences which A. may be of interest to you, and B. are very often asked here in the club:

 

Both MB's and Lamy's bottled versions of blue-black (the former now manufactured as "MB's Midnight Blue") are different from their cartidge versions.

All of these bottled inks are iron gall-containing, which makes them "permanent" or "legally" adaptable. I.e. these are almost impossible to wash out and are very smear-proof (when once dry).

All of their cartidge versions are not iron gall-containing, and thus they are at least "somewhat" more "washoutable".

Other companies also make iron-gall-containing inks, like the two of R&K and Diamines's Registrars ink, at least in their bottles. I'm not sure about their cartridge contents.

Note 1: whether or not you have a c/c (i.e. cartridge/converter) pen, IMO do use a cartridge converter if you're interested in trying out more than a handful or two of inks supplied by the manufacturer of the cartridges. Note 2: Several c/cs are internationally-sized = exchangeable, but not all.

 

Mike

Edited March 9, 2010 by lapis

[vebaev]

You plug the converter in and then draw ink in through the nib, by extracting a plunger through a variety of means.

 

I thought that I should put in the converter in the ink and pull like siringe...so it is getting the ink via the nib? but it will get terribly messy I suppose, no? all the metal part I have to dip in ? :roflmho:

[lapis]

Of course, you can always do both (no offence meant, but check out the last dozen questions on this here within the last 6 months or so).

I myself always leave the converter in the pen and draw ink in thru the nib. saves time, enery, washout and dryoffs.

If you really want to load only the (empty) cartridge, then do so. Possibilities. Stick the empty and clean cartridge into the bottle of ink and press the cartridge together and then suck up into the cartridge. Or use a syringe. I any case, you'll need a few minutes of writing and squirting till all writes fine.

I have a lot of c/c pens, but absolutely none without a converter.

 

Mike

[vebaev]

Of course, you can always do both (no offence meant, but check out the last dozen questions on this here within the last 6 months or so).

I myself always leave the converter in the pen and draw ink in thru the nib. saves time, enery, washout and dryoffs.

If you really want to load only the (empty) cartridge, then do so. Possibilities. Stick the empty and clean cartridge into the bottle of ink and press the cartridge together and then suck up into the cartridge. Or use a syringe. I any case, you'll need a few minutes of writing and squirting till all writes fine.

I have a lot of c/c pens, but absolutely none without a converter.

 

Mike

 

Thanks a lot! I will explore the forum! Last question - I like Pelikan blue-black ink so how do I know the cartridge size is for my pen?

Edited March 8, 2010 by vebaev

[lapis]

You're in luck!

 

Universal cartridges include those of Pelikan, Montblanc, OMAS, Stypen and many other cartridge-filling fountain pens, especially European pens. Non-universals (i.e. "proprietory) carts include Sheaffer, Parker, Lamy, Cross, Pilot/Namiki, Sailor, Platinum and Aurora.

 

Now just check out the companies manufacturing inks alone. E.g. Herbin. They too are universal. Thank G.

 

Me

Edited March 8, 2010 by lapis

[blackonblack]

I prefer bottle.