Most exotic Pelikan nib

[camoandconcrete]

For awhile I have been thinking of getting an M625 with a BB reground into an Architect's point (super-thin down strokes and very wide horizontal strokes). This got me thinking as what other really exotic nibs Pelikan made or people had custom ground. Even though a Kugel Oblique Broad nib doesn't make a lot of sense I would love to find a Pel with one. I know Montblanc made them as I've seen KOBBB nibs before, as unbelievable as that one would be!

 

What's your most exotic nib on a Pelikan?

[Edgar Allan Bo]

The broadest I had was a O3B on a M800 and the finest a Binder XXF M200 nib...

 

If you like something exotic, on vintage 140's and 400's there are also DEF, KEF, KF, KM, DF, DM, OF, ST nibs!

[1000km]

I have a vintage KM nib and it's by far my favourite. Super wet and flexible.

 

If you like something exotic, on vintage 140's and 400's there are also DEF, KEF, KF, KM, DF, DM, OF, ST nibs!

Edited January 28, 2010 by 1000km

[pathobby]

The broadest I had was a O3B on a M800 and the finest a Binder XXF M200 nib...

 

If you like something exotic, on vintage 140's and 400's there are also DEF, KEF, KF, KM, DF, DM, OF, ST nibs!

 

 

I have a vintage KM nib and it's by far my favourite. Super wet and flexible.

 

If you like something exotic, on vintage 140's and 400's there are also DEF, KEF, KF, KM, DF, DM, OF, ST nibs!

 

What do these paricular designations mean?

 

I would be really interested to know what the initials stand for.

 

PH

[Edgar Allan Bo]

The broadest I had was a O3B on a M800 and the finest a Binder XXF M200 nib...

 

If you like something exotic, on vintage 140's and 400's there are also DEF, KEF, KF, KM, DF, DM, OF, ST nibs!

 

 

I have a vintage KM nib and it's by far my favourite. Super wet and flexible.

 

If you like something exotic, on vintage 140's and 400's there are also DEF, KEF, KF, KM, DF, DM, OF, ST nibs!

 

What do these paricular designations mean?

 

I would be really interested to know what the initials stand for.

 

PH

 

Here are the Pelikan nibs that I saw floating around in the past:

 

A - (Anfänger) - Beginner (between F and M, round tip)

F - (Fein) - FINE

EF - (Extra Fein) - EXTRA FINE

KEF - (Kugel- Extra Fein) - BALL-TIP EXTRA FINE

KF - (Kugel- Fein) - BALL-TIP FINE

M - (Mittel) - MEDIUM

KM - (Kugel- Mittel) - BALL-TIP MEDIUM

DEF - (Durchschreib- Extra Fein) - MANIFOLD(carbon-copy) EXTRA FINE

DF - (Durchschreib- Fein) - MANIFOLD(carbon copy) FINE

DM - (Durchschreib- Mittel) - MANIFOLD(carbon copy) MEDIUM

OF - (Oblique Fein) - OBLIQUE FINE

OM - (Oblique Mittel) - OBLIQUE MEDIUM

OB - (Oblique Breit) - OBLIQUE BROAD

OBB - (Oblique Breit Breit) - OBLIQUE BROAD BROAD

O3B - (Oblique Breit Breit Breit) - OBLIQUE BROAD BROAD BROAD (oblique tripple broad)

B - (Breit) - BROAD

BB - (Breit Breit) - BROAD BROAD (double broad)

BBB / 3B - (Breit Breit Breit) - BROD BROAD BROAD (tripple broad)

ST - (Steno) - STENO (for stenographic handwriting) - flexible

HEF - (Hart Extra Fein) - (extra) HARD EXTRA FINE

HF - (Hart Fein) - (extra) HARD FINE

HM - (Hart Medium) - (extra) HARD MEDIUM

 

and even some more...

 

...Montblanc also has some exotic nibs, like KOBBB and similar...

Edited January 29, 2010 by Edgar Allan Bo

[bensuzuki]

I have a double hole nib.

[DeScribe]

Cool. I learn something new today.

[reprieve]

My "exotic" Pelikan nibs are from Richard Binder. I have one of Binder's Condor nibs, an XXF full flex, and a music nib.

[smoores]

Okay, so now I am going to have to find a Pelikan....all of these wonderful options and I don't even have a Pelikan yet to be able to try any of them. Do these nibs come in all sizes? In other words, would they fit onto an M205 or M215? Or do they only fit on certain body styles?

[Edgar Allan Bo]

Okay, so now I am going to have to find a Pelikan....all of these wonderful options and I don't even have a Pelikan yet to be able to try any of them. Do these nibs come in all sizes? In other words, would they fit onto an M205 or M215? Or do they only fit on certain body styles?

 

99% of them are 140 / 400 nibs, today Pelikan has only the regular ones, EF, F, M, B, BB, OM, OB, OBB, O3B and they are all round tipped... while the old M, B, BB, OM, OB, OBB were all like stubs!

 

I don't know if they would fit the M200, but the size is very close... anyhow, a 140 or 400 is a much better deal than any M200 / M400 (and for me even better than all the rest of todays Pel pens)

[reprieve]

99% of them are 140 / 400 nibs, today Pelikan has only the regular ones, EF, F, M, B, BB, OM, OB, OBB, O3B and they are all round tipped... while the old M, B, BB, OM, OB, OBB were all like stubs!

 

I have a couple of modern M4xx BB nibs that are very stubbish! They are wonderful.

[Silvermink]

I have a Pelikan Steno, though last time I inked it it didn't want to write.

[Pfhorrest]

Don't forgot the lettering (ML/BL) nibs. I have one, and although it writes okay, it doesn't really do what it's designed to do easily and is a pain to write with as it has a tiny sweet spot.

[Brian]

Not too wild. Broadest is an older BB on a new M600 body. It is a wonderful writer especially with an ink that has good shading. Currently filled with Stipula Muchiato (sic?). Have also found the F, M, and B nibs from the older series up to the early 2000s to be much more springy and enjoyable on M800/805s.

[gteague]

i recently acquired in a trade a pelikan 400 circa 1953 (exact or approx) with a 'kf' nib. the previous owner called if a 'ball fine' i believe. but it writes more like a medium stub and is wet and smooth and wet and smooth.

 

i do have a medium stub nib from binder on another pen which is my 'benchmark' and this 'kf' is every bit its match, if not more. which leads me to suspect some sort of work might have been done on this nib, otherwise, if this is a stock 'kf' nib i'm gonna need more of them!

 

/guy

[pathobby]

The broadest I had was a O3B on a M800 and the finest a Binder XXF M200 nib...

 

If you like something exotic, on vintage 140's and 400's there are also DEF, KEF, KF, KM, DF, DM, OF, ST nibs!

 

 

I have a vintage KM nib and it's by far my favourite. Super wet and flexible.

 

If you like something exotic, on vintage 140's and 400's there are also DEF, KEF, KF, KM, DF, DM, OF, ST nibs!

 

What do these paricular designations mean?

 

I would be really interested to know what the initials stand for.

 

PH

 

Here are the Pelikan nibs that I saw floating around in the past:

 

A - (Anfänger) - Beginner (between F and M, round tip)

F - (Fein) - FINE

EF - (Extra Fein) - EXTRA FINE

KEF - (Kugel- Extra Fein) - BALL-TIP EXTRA FINE

KF - (Kugel- Fein) - BALL-TIP FINE

M - (Mittel) - MEDIUM

KM - (Kugel- Mittel) - BALL-TIP MEDIUM

DEF - (Durchschreib- Extra Fein) - MANIFOLD(carbon-copy) EXTRA FINE

DF - (Durchschreib- Fein) - MANIFOLD(carbon copy) FINE

DM - (Durchschreib- Mittel) - MANIFOLD(carbon copy) MEDIUM

OF - (Oblique Fein) - OBLIQUE FINE

OM - (Oblique Mittel) - OBLIQUE MEDIUM

OB - (Oblique Breit) - OBLIQUE BROAD

OBB - (Oblique Breit Breit) - OBLIQUE BROAD BROAD

O3B - (Oblique Breit Breit Breit) - OBLIQUE BROAD BROAD BROAD (oblique tripple broad)

B - (Breit) - BROAD

BB - (Breit Breit) - BROAD BROAD (double broad)

BBB / 3B - (Breit Breit Breit) - BROD BROAD BROAD (tripple broad)

ST - (Steno) - STENO (for stenographic handwriting) - flexible

HF - (Hart Fein) - (extra) HARD FINE

HM - (Hart Medium) - (extra) HARD MEDIUM

 

...Montblanc also has some exotic nibs, like KOBBB and similar...

 

Many thanks, many thanks for this really useful information!

 

I have been trying to find this out for ages!

 

PH

[Edgar Allan Bo]

i recently acquired in a trade a pelikan 400 circa 1953 (exact or approx) with a 'kf' nib. the previous owner called if a 'ball fine' i believe. but it writes more like a medium stub and is wet and smooth and wet and smooth.

 

i do have a medium stub nib from binder on another pen which is my 'benchmark' and this 'kf' is every bit its match, if not more. which leads me to suspect some sort of work might have been done on this nib, otherwise, if this is a stock 'kf' nib i'm gonna need more of them!

 

/guy

 

KF (Kugel Fein) - Ball Fine should be the correct description, maybe it'S juts worn out so that it has stubbish characteristics now... some of the standard vintage M / B nibs on 140 / 400 pels are great stubs!

[kushbaby]

I have got the following "non-standard" Pelikan nibs:

 

Pelikan 140 black - EEF

Pelikan 140 green striped - OF

Pelikan 140 forest green - KM

Pelikan 140 grey - DF

Pelikan 140 Elecktrographik IBM - HEF

Pelikan 400 tortoise - OBB

Pelikan 500 tortoise/vermeil - KM

 

(I don't know if it counts, but I have a 140 black and a 140 dark blue with BB nibs, which I understand are uncommon).

 

One thing that has been fascinating is how variable these are (and not all just because of wear) - I understand it is because of the hand ground nature of the nibs. My OF is almost an OM or OB, my BBs are very different, and I have an EF in a forest green 140 that's significantly finer than the EEF above...

 

I hope to get a KF - those are my initials!

 

[contaxrts2]

Don't forgot the lettering (ML/BL) nibs. I have one, and although it writes okay, it doesn't really do what it's designed to do easily and is a pain to write with as it has a tiny sweet spot.

 

The lettering nibs (ML, BL + BBL) from Pelikan calligraphy series are not designed for standard writing. They have a powerful flow and are great for very slow lettering. Indeed very exotic nibs and specialists, but they do fit into the pens of the calligraphy series and Pelikan 120, 140, 400, M150, M250, M400 + M600 old+new.

I use BL + BBL in my MC110.

Edited January 29, 2010 by contaxrts2

[camoandconcrete]

Interesting, I'd love to pick up a grey striped 400 with a OBB or for school writing, a KM. Maybe I should contact Rick P?