Pelikan M600 Nib

[aget19]

Hey there guys,

 

from what i have seen on the forums and the pelikan website etc. I am to believe that the standard nib for the M600 is the two-tone gold/silver nib with the inscription: 18C-750.

 

However on my 600 that i bought the nib is all gold and says 14C-750.

 

what my question is:

 

Is there the wrong nib on this pen? Should I have received something else?

 

any help would be greatly appreciated

-aget19

[Koyote]

Hey there guys,

 

from what i have seen on the forums and the pelikan website etc. I am to believe that the standard nib for the M600 is the two-tone gold/silver nib with the inscription: 18C-750.

 

However on my 600 that i bought the nib is all gold and says 14C-750.

 

what my question is:

 

Is there the wrong nib on this pen? Should I have received something else?

 

any help would be greatly appreciated

-aget19

 

My M600 also has a 14k nib, and I think that is standard. The M800 and M1000 have 18k nibs.

[Dr Lopez]

It might be that they fitted an old style M4xx/2xx in it (monotone 14K gold) instead of the modern two-tone one. In any case my M600 is also two-tone 14K, only my M800 is 18K. Be warned though M2xx/4xx and 6xx can use the same nib, the factory nibs of the 6xx are larger and in accordance with the difference in the pen sizes.

[PJohnP]

It's caliper time !

 

Pull out a caliper and measure the pen from the top of the metal collar to the tip of the nib, and then consult the Nib Interchangeability Chart on Richard Binder's site to see if the nib is an M400 or M600 size. AFAIK, there have been both 14k and 18k M600 nibs floating around, but the length will be a clear determining factor.

 

 

 

John P.

[mirko]

Hey there guys,

 

from what i have seen on the forums and the pelikan website etc. I am to believe that the standard nib for the M600 is the two-tone gold/silver nib with the inscription: 18C-750.

 

However on my 600 that i bought the nib is all gold and says 14C-585.

 

what my question is:

 

Is there the wrong nib on this pen? Should I have received something else?

 

any help would be greatly appreciated

-aget19

 

My M600 also has a 14k nib, and I think that is standard. The M800 and M1000 have 18k nibs.

 

And my M605 is 14C-585 too, although it is two-tone. [edit: corrected the gold-grade]

Edited January 19, 2010 by mirko

[MarkTrain]

Hey there guys,

 

from what i have seen on the forums and the pelikan website etc. I am to believe that the standard nib for the M600 is the two-tone gold/silver nib with the inscription: 18C-750.

 

However on my 600 that i bought the nib is all gold and says 14C-750.

 

what my question is:

 

Is there the wrong nib on this pen? Should I have received something else?

 

any help would be greatly appreciated

-aget19

 

The standard old-style M600 nib was 18C-750.

The standard new-style M600 nib is 14C-585.

 

If you have a nib marked 14C-750, then something is really wrong.

 

Mark

[Mr Ink]

 

However on my 600 that i bought the nib is all gold and says 14C-750.

 

 

The standard old-style M600 nib was 18C-750.

The standard new-style M600 nib is 14C-585.

 

If you have a nib marked 14C-750, then something is really wrong.

 

Mark

I agree with Mark. A 14C nib would have a millesimal fineness of 585 (i.e. the alloy is 58.5% gold), while an 18C nib would have a millesimal fineness of 750 (i.e. the alloy is 75% gold). I cannot see how a nib could be 14C and have a millesimal fineness of 750. Something seems to be wrong.

 

Edit for spelling correction.

Edited January 19, 2010 by Mr Ink

[printhardcopy]

your m600 is old style or new style m600 ?

 

if it is new style m600 it should be 14c-585

[1000km]

14C-750 is definitely fishy.

750 means 75% pure gold, which is 18C.

585 means 58.5% pure gold, which is 14C.

[Koyote]

Maybe this is a silly question, but how does it write?

[beluga]

14C-750 is definitely fishy.

750 means 75% pure gold, which is 18C.

585 means 58.5% pure gold, which is 14C.

 

 

+1

 

Not only fishy; clearly impossible - no matter which pen manufacturer, pen model, or year.

 

 

See here for an explanation of the relationship between the carat value and the figure following the dash: http://www.goldconverters.com.au/gold-fact

 

As you can see, you cannot have a 14c gold nib with 75% gold contents.

 

 

 

 

B.

[aget19]

ok so from what you guys are saying.

 

the M600 nib should be a 14K nib... but it definitely shouldnt say 14k-750. Ok ill double check it

 

however it writes fine.. no skipping and a lovely wet line

 

my main concern however, is the fact that it is monotone.. my point was that the M600 nib SHOULD be two-tone. I actually ordered another M600 nib from Mr Binder himself and the one i was sent was two-tone.

 

I am thinking that i should take it back to the shop and get them to put a two tone nib in there. no?

[printhardcopy]

Is that 18C 750 for single tone nib ?

Edited January 21, 2010 by printhardcopy

[Pippin60]

M600's are 2 tone 14c, only the M625 has a rhodium plated 18c nib. See Pelikan

[Pfhorrest]

It might be a fake nib (although I've never heard of such a thing before) if it is marked 14C-750. Or maybe some inexplicably complicated error happened when making the nib...

[aget19]

ok so i bought another nib from Richard Binder (a two-tone one for the M600) and it says 14C-585.

 

CORRECTION: the original nib i was talking about does say 14c-585 so its not a fake nib..

 

my point was leaning more towards the fact that it is monotone... judging from the nib i got from Mr Binder.. the M600 nibs are supposed to be two-tone.. no?

[buffalowings]

ywa, modern 600 nibs are supposed to be in two tone, maybe you got a vintage nib, but it all seems a little fishy, maybe you should ask for a nib exchange from the shop

[Dr Lopez]

ok so i bought another nib from Richard Binder (a two-tone one for the M600) and it says 14C-585.

 

CORRECTION: the original nib i was talking about does say 14c-585 so its not a fake nib..

 

my point was leaning more towards the fact that it is monotone... judging from the nib i got from Mr Binder.. the M600 nibs are supposed to be two-tone.. no?

 

I insist you should check if the nib is an old style M4xx (which would screw on/off perfectly on M2xx and M6xx too, but the nib is smaller). Only those nibs are monotone and are being installed in M2xx at request.

[Sandy1]

It might be a fake nib (although I've never heard of such a thing before) if it is marked 14C-750. Or maybe some inexplicably complicated error happened when making the nib...

Hi -- The markings are contradictory. Correct combos are : 18C & 750 OR 14C & 585. So either a fake or a rarity - like mis-minted coins, stamps, etc. -- BR, S1