Review Of Binder Flex Xxf/xxxf Duopoint

[BobME]

And the answer to you question is still my reply.

 

No, you didn't answer my question. (I know you're trying to qualify you're answers up the wazoo to be helpful, but my rephrased question didn't require any hemming and hawing in response).

 

It depends on the amount of pressure that you apply to the nib as you write.

 

Er, re-read my question. The amount of variation *YOU* get has absolutely nothing to the with the amount of pressure *I* apply However, I think we've already established that you deliberately vary pressure to achieve line variation so you're not qualified (or more favourably phrased, you're over qualified) to answer the question.

 

With any pressure applied to a Binder full flex nib there will be some line variation, the more pressure on the nib the more line variation. No pressure you will have a monoline. Minimal light pressure very little variation. More pressure more variation.

 

Ah-hah! Perhaps accidentally you've provided some information. Thank you It doesn't sound like there's a light pressure zone in which no variation is achieved. Other descriptions of the nib I've read have sounded like the nib exhibits modal behaviour. That is, up to a certain pressure it exhibits no flex, and then at a certain pressure there's a discontinuity in its response and you're in the flex region of behaviour. From your description it doesn't sound like there're two distinct regions of operation. However, would you care to comment explicitly on modality/regions of behaviour of the nib?

 

By the way that you keep asking the same question and we've been trying to give you pretty much the same answers ...

 

There's been no "we" Flourish, just you. But I do thank you for your responses and your patience.

 

I find that when I write how I would normally that it gives me some variation. It looks a lot better than writing with a round nib. Like many have pointed out everyone writes different.

[BobME]

Wowee, I'm impulsed. Question for you tho, does Mr Binder turn a normal nib into a flex nib (flexify a nib ), or is it a matter of him adding a specific nib to a pen of choice, and if so how much choice do you have? (Any alternative choices to an M200?)

 

Either way thanks for bloody making me want another pen. I'm going to have to stop browsing FPN till my bank balance recovers.

 

The ways it works is that you buy a pre modified nib from him and can put it in a pen you already have, or buy a nib-less pen at the same time. Changing the nib in a pelikan takes about five seconds. I bought the m200 because I wanted something simple, but he has many other models. The pre modified nibs fit in the M200, M400, M600 and M700. You can also get a pen that you currently have modified, but I don't know what the turn around time is.

Edited November 20, 2009 by BobME

[BobME]

...The XXXF side is not very smooth, but I figure that that comes with the fact that it is so small and doesn’t have give like the flex side. Even on Rhodia paper it scratches as you write.

That's because you're pressing too heavily. Seriously, any pressure at all is too much for a tiny point like that. You need to suspend the pen so that the nib just brushes the surface of the paper.

 

For those who are curious about the shaping, the "trough" in the top surface is a feature I picked up from vintage duo-point nibs such as the ones Mabie Todd made. I've modified it a little to get a cleaner, more consistent flip-side tip shape. I used to use the classic Waterman duo-point shape, but the Mabie Todd shape provides a much better result, and results are what I'm after.

 

Well practice makes perfect. I wonder how many XXXF lines I can fit on a moleskin page? Thankx for the info Richard.

[rollerboy]

I find that when I write how I would normally that it gives me some variation. It looks a lot better than writing with a round nib. Like many have pointed out everyone writes different.

 

A useful data point. Thank you.