Will Iron Gall kill my Lamy Safari ?

[picautomaton]

About fifteen years ago I used MontBlanc Blue-Black exclusively in my Duofold Centenial International. I never really flushed the pen as it was my daily writer and felt no need to as it was filled regularly. The only wear evident was the section rings near the point end had tarnished where the loose ink had met with the cap in closing and I guess the friction plus Iron Gall's did some damage.

 

I am now thinking of going back to MB BB, however I would like to use it in my Lamy Safari (black steel nib) this time and would like to know if any member's have done so long term.

Could you tell me of your experiences. I would greatly appreciate it.

 

 

G C

[DeSuisse]

About fifteen years ago I used MontBlanc Blue-Black exclusively in my Duofold Centenial International. I never really flushed the pen as it was my daily writer and felt no need to as it was filled regularly. The only wear evident was the section rings near the point end had tarnished where the loose ink had met with the cap in closing and I guess the friction plus Iron Gall's did some damage.

 

I am now thinking of going back to MB BB, however I would like to use it in my Lamy Safari (black steel nib) this time and would like to know if any member's have done so long term.

Could you tell me of your experiences. I would greatly appreciate it.

 

 

G C

For me lamy blue- black is an other ink which contain some iron gall ink, but in safari nib this inkis better than Montblanc, and from the information of Lamy service without problem. It is my ink for everyday work. I find Montblanc ink more dry.

[DeSuisse]

About fifteen years ago I used MontBlanc Blue-Black exclusively in my Duofold Centenial International. I never really flushed the pen as it was my daily writer and felt no need to as it was filled regularly. The only wear evident was the section rings near the point end had tarnished where the loose ink had met with the cap in closing and I guess the friction plus Iron Gall's did some damage.

 

I am now thinking of going back to MB BB, however I would like to use it in my Lamy Safari (black steel nib) this time and would like to know if any member's have done so long term.

Could you tell me of your experiences. I would greatly appreciate it.

 

 

G C

For me lamy blue- black is an other ink which contain some iron gall ink, but in safari nib this inkis better than Montblanc, and from the information of Lamy service without problem. It is my ink for everyday work. I find Montblanc ink more dry.

[Silvermink]

For me lamy blue- black is an other ink which contain some iron gall ink, but in safari nib this inkis better than Montblanc, and from the information of Lamy service without problem. It is my ink for everyday work. I find Montblanc ink more dry.

 

I thought Lamy B-B was exactly the same ink. Sure it's not just batch variation?

[Jeff E]

I don't see a problem as long as you flush the pen on a regular basis. I would say once a month at a minimum.

[picautomaton]

Great , thank you for the replies. Will fill my pen up and see how they work together.

[Deirdre]

I'd expect that the Safari is designed for it, which may be why the Lamy feeds have issues with the alkaline Noodler's inks.

[piembi]

Have a Lamy vista filled with Lamy BB for quite a while now.

Don't use the pen on a daily basis and don't have noticed any issues so far.

[DeSuisse]

I'd expect that the Safari is designed for it, which may be why the Lamy feeds have issues with the alkaline Noodler's inks.

I am using the lamy ink for 6 month without problem. I change it every month. I have had the insurance from someone of the lamy service that there is no problem. This ink is not an old iron gall, it'is an new ink which contain a small part of iron gall. I have change once the nib, because I prefere the italic one, but I think it's not a good idea to chage often nibs, because plastic can be used.

[Possum Hill]

I'd expect that the Safari is designed for it, which may be why the Lamy feeds have issues with the alkaline Noodler's inks.

I think it's likely that the problems with Lamy Safari feeds and the alkaline Noodler's inks are not directly related to the inks' alkalinity, but rather to a phenomenon known as environmental stress cracking which depends on an peculiar interaction between the plastic and some component of the ink. It may be that the relevant component of the ink is the one that makes the ink alkaline, or it may not. YMMV, and his mileage may vary in a different fashion. If there's one thing that's certain, it's that you never can tell.

 

 

 

 

[JakobS]

I have been using Diamine Registrar's ink in my Lamy Safari for about six months straight now, and have yet to see any effect upon the nib, feed, or any other part of the pen, it writes very smoothly in the Safari and can't ask for a more fantastic ink, I would have no problem using iron gall inks that are safe for fountain pens in my Safari any day.

[Jimmy James]

I would think over the long term, chemistry will probably get the better of the nib. That said, if it's 5 years of enjoyment of an ink you love coming out of the pen and a $10-15 replacement nib, it seems worth it to me.

[Ondina]

Will it kill you Safari? unless you stab the bottle with the nib and then use the bottle to smash it, no. It's being in some of the pens of the family for over a century, and they all seem to like the diet pretty much. (Some exercise helps, too. Use the pen now and then).

[picautomaton]

Thank you for the replies.

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