Drive-By Shootings - The Most Over-rated Pen & Why

[twdpens]

P.S. :ltcapd:

 

http://www.isellpens.com/Images/lamy/LAMY%20SAFARI%20YELL%20FP%201A.JPG

 

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand mix these two components to make the above item...

 

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2363/2419823493_91e212f35b.jpg

http://www.favreauantiques.com/cali/BL3001Yellow50.jpg

 

I'll take my overpriced and horrible writing Montblancs any day. ;-)

 

-Marcos

 

A perfect series of comparisons. A Lamy Safari is an item of stationery like the paper clip. Both are manufactured to rigorous quality standards. Likewise, Lego is one of the highest quality products on the market and worthy of its status. Therefore, Lamy should be honoured to sit in such esteemed company.

 

Anyway, enough of all this praise for pens both expensive and inexpensive. Let's get back to the pen bashing!

 

Martin

[Possum Hill]

It seems people are coming out with a gun (or bazooka) blazing. This thread is serving as a release for built-up pressure in their minds to express their true opinions (instead of sugar-coating them for the sake of politeness).

Nonsense. I think most people here are clever enough to express their true opinions politely. Talking about pens one doesn't like with by "coming out with a gun blazing" may be fun, but it's not particularly accurate or enlightening about the pen. It does tell us something about the person.

[Blade Runner]

It seems people are coming out with a gun (or bazooka) blazing. This thread is serving as a release for built-up pressure in their minds to express their true opinions (instead of sugar-coating them for the sake of politeness).

Nonsense. I think most people here are clever enough to express their true opinions politely. Talking about pens one doesn't like with by "coming out with a gun blazing" may be fun, but it's not particularly accurate or enlightening about the pen. It does tell us something about the person.

Well stated Possum Hill.

[diplomat]

At the risk of being run out of town: Lamy Safari.

 

Yes, but: why? It's a design thing or there is more?

Oh, no, I actually like the lines. I like the colors. I like the price point. (I'd dearly love to have another Savanna Green Apple-logo ballpoint, and if anyone ever sees one, I seriously will buy one or five.)

 

But their cartridge inks and the nib were the worst of any I've ever tried, and I've tried more than one bomb.

 

I see. I have >20 Safaris/Al Stars, and I agree that a couple had nib issues. Luckily it's very easy to switch the nibs...

 

 

3. ANY PEN THAT SELLS FOR OVER $250 AND HAS A CARTRIDGE-CONVERTER.

 

Best post in thread! But then again, I think I line in the self filling snobbery army...

 

Ciao,

[turban1]

Considering the hate rained on the 51, the Lamy pens, and even perhaps the Pilot Capless, i'd say people don't like mid-20th century design.

 

As the good doctor F used to say, "My Gawd! I've created a...monster!" Such vigorous response!

 

But an animus against mid-20th C design? I have not heard anyone savage the Schaeffer PFMs, design classics.

[dogpoet]

I'd be a bit wary of having a go at montblancs on general principles, as they did some wonderful pens back in the day.

[Mrsal]

I'd be a bit wary of having a go at montblancs on general principles, as they did some wonderful pens back in the day.

 

 

so what, their modern pen arent that good?

[montblancdude]

I'd be a bit wary of having a go at montblancs on general principles, as they did some wonderful pens back in the day.

 

 

so what, their modern pen arent that good?

 

I don't believe that's what dogpoet was trying to say... he's just saying be careful what you criticize.

[dogpoet]

No idea, to be honest. It's obviously something that people care deeply about, and I wouldn't want to get involved myself given how downright nasty it can turn.

[dogpoet]

I'd be a bit wary of having a go at montblancs on general principles, as they did some wonderful pens back in the day.

 

 

so what, their modern pen arent that good?

 

I don't believe that's what dogpoet was trying to say... he's just saying be careful what you criticize.

That is what I was trying to say. Sorry it wasn't clear. I'm not trying to have a go at anybody over this.

Edited July 25, 2009 by dogpoet

[dogpoet]

I really have put my foot in my mouth on this one, haven't I? I beg your pardon.

[montblancdude]

I really have put my foot in my mouth on this one, haven't I? I beg your pardon.

 

I understood perfectly what you were trying to say! No need to apologize.

[dogpoet]

Thank you.

[brianw06]

Thank you.

Even though I have never found a MB I liked, you certainly have your view and have absolutely no reason to apologize.

[Mrsal]

I really have put my foot in my mouth on this one, haven't I? I beg your pardon.

 

I understood perfectly what you were trying to say! No need to apologize.

 

 

yea, i just didnt understand what you said, and posted to soon... :bonk:

 

no need to apologize

 

and your right, you should be careful what you criticize

Edited July 25, 2009 by Mrsal

[sumgaikid]

P.S. :ltcapd:

 

http://www.isellpens.com/Images/lamy/LAMY%20SAFARI%20YELL%20FP%201A.JPG

 

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand mix these two components to make the above item...

 

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2363/2419823493_91e212f35b.jpg

http://www.favreauantiques.com/cali/BL3001Yellow50.jpg

 

I'll take my overpriced and horrible writing Montblancs any day. ;-)

 

-Marcos

 

 

:ltcapd: :ltcapd: :ltcapd: legos and paper clips..........who'd a thunk it?

 

John

 

[sumgaikid]

Considering the hate rained on the 51, the Lamy pens, and even perhaps the Pilot Capless, i'd say people don't like mid-20th century design.

 

For me,the design on the 51 is OK--nothing that's world-shattering--I just don't

like the tubular nibs(with the exception of the oblique nib). They produce Bic-like

writing,IMHO.

 

 

John

 

[ToasterPastry]

I think the original question was "most overrated pen," not "what pen do you really hate."

 

Thus, when I get on the forum and read people about having pen-gasms over the 'buttery-smoothness' of their penultimate purchase, I want to know what all the fuss is about. In the case of my examples described above, I've been disappointed. I don't hate mid-Century Modern design. I'm just disappointed with what I purchased. When comparing my pen to others of the same, I realize my disappointment covers the whole brand and not my purchase. Lamy Safaris and Rotring Cores are ugly, mass-produced pens, and not made hand-made by little elves in magical shops. But I don't expect much for $25. They write reasonably well. So how does this translate to "overrated?"

[Silvermink]

But an animus against mid-20th C design? I have not heard anyone savage the Schaeffer PFMs, design classics.

 

That's because PFMs rock.

 

Lamy Safaris and Rotring Cores are ugly, mass-produced pens, and not made hand-made by little elves in magical shops. But I don't expect much for $25. They write reasonably well. So how does this translate to "overrated?"

 

I don't think "overrated" necessarily has to encapsulate any thoughts about price. For example, I dissed Jinhao, and I got my examples for very little. It's really only about how much people rave about them. I may buy something for $20, but even though it's cheap I'll expect a lot if everyone else is falling all over it. Consequently, if my experience is so-so or lousy, I'll think of it as overrated.

Edited July 25, 2009 by Silvermink

[brianw06]

But an animus against mid-20th C design? I have not heard anyone savage the Schaeffer PFMs, design classics.

 

That's because PFMs rock.

 

Lamy Safaris and Rotring Cores are ugly, mass-produced pens, and not made hand-made by little elves in magical shops. But I don't expect much for $25. They write reasonably well. So how does this translate to "overrated?"

 

I don't think "overrated" necessarily has to encapsulate any thoughts about price. For example, I dissed Jinhao, and I got my examples for very little. It's really only about how much people rave about them. I may buy something for $20, but even though it's cheap I'll expect a lot if everyone else is falling all over it. Consequently, if my experience is so-so or lousy, I'll think of it as overrated.

I couldn't agree more...