Canon G10

[repairperson]

I am considering a canon g10. I want to take excellent pictures of nibs and barrel inscriptions like the ones I see on this network. Will it do the job well?

[RLTodd]

Should, there are good things said about it on the net.

 

FWIW, the lighting is much more important than the camera.

 

Best of luck.........

 

[037]

Sorry, but you won't with the G10.

The macro mode is only usable at the short (wide angle) end, and way too close to the subject for proper illumination. To get the nib about a third of the size of the picture area, you're down to 3cm to it. The lower portion of the picture will be appreciate darker because of the lens barrel blocking the light.

Also very noticable barrel distortion.

You can alleviate the distortion problem by adding a LA-DC58K, and screwing a 58mm diopter to the end.

To get the nib size similar to the above, you'll be shooting from 20cm out, and using the tele end of the lens, minimizing distortion, and still have room for lighting it properly. You can also increase the magnification by changing the diopters, or even combining them (not advised).

Be warned, beyond ISO400, the image is very noisy/grainy, with rather low quality resolution.

[repairperson]

Sorry, but you won't with the G10.

The macro mode is only usable at the short (wide angle) end, and way too close to the subject for proper illumination. To get the nib about a third of the size of the picture area, you're down to 3cm to it. The lower portion of the picture will be appreciate darker because of the lens barrel blocking the light.

Also very noticable barrel distortion.

You can alleviate the distortion problem by adding a LA-DC58K, and screwing a 58mm diopter to the end.

To get the nib size similar to the above, you'll be shooting from 20cm out, and using the tele end of the lens, minimizing distortion, and still have room for lighting it properly. You can also increase the magnification by changing the diopters, or even combining them (not advised).

Be warned, beyond ISO400, the image is very noisy/grainy, with rather low quality resolution.

 

 

I have the camera on loan and have yet to take a clear picture of a nib with it. What camera would you suggest?

[1000km]

You can get great results with the G10 by using the macro function at full telephoto (equiv. 105mm) and judiciously cropping the final image. A light-box will make a world of difference and with good lighting you can shoot at low ISO (80-100) and optimum aperture (f2.8-4). See here for some of my images taken using this setup/technique:

Pelikan M605

Pelikan M650

Sheaffer Balance

Edited May 13, 2009 by 1000km

[037]

True enough, you do have 14.7 MP to play with.

The factors for great images are room for proper lighting and avoiding distortion.

Edited May 13, 2009 by 37

[repairperson]

Sorry, but you won't with the G10.

The macro mode is only usable at the short (wide angle) end, and way too close to the subject for proper illumination. To get the nib about a third of the size of the picture area, you're down to 3cm to it. The lower portion of the picture will be appreciate darker because of the lens barrel blocking the light.

Also very noticable barrel distortion.

You can alleviate the distortion problem by adding a LA-DC58K, and screwing a 58mm diopter to the end.

To get the nib size similar to the above, you'll be shooting from 20cm out, and using the tele end of the lens, minimizing distortion, and still have room for lighting it properly. You can also increase the magnification by changing the diopters, or even combining them (not advised).

Be warned, beyond ISO400, the image is very noisy/grainy, with rather low quality resolution.

 

 

I have the camera on loan and have yet to take a clear picture of a nib with it. What camera would you suggest?

 

 

This is all getting quite complicated. Lovely pictures and great help. Should I keep with this one or is there something similar out there in camera land? I am using a light box but I can't seem to get a nib in focus.

[Treecat]

This is all getting quite complicated. Lovely pictures and great help. Should I keep with this one or is there something similar out there in camera land? I am using a light box but I can't seem to get a nib in focus.

 

I have a Canon G9 and find it harder to take macro shots with it than with my Minolta A2. With the A2 I have a useable viewfinder to help with focus. With the G9, it has to be done with the LCD screen, and I find that more difficult.

 

However, you might try this: Set the camera to macro mode and set the focus to MANUAL (not automatic). A square zoomed-in window should appear on the LCD screen that will give you a better view of the nib. Move the camera back and forth (you're focusing manually) until the nib comes into focus. For more information on using the G10 for macros visit the Canon forum at www.dpreviews.com and ask questions there. Very helpful, very sharp people. You will have to register to post, but the help is worth the effort.

 

 

 

 

 

[repairperson]

This is all getting quite complicated. Lovely pictures and great help. Should I keep with this one or is there something similar out there in camera land? I am using a light box but I can't seem to get a nib in focus.

 

I have a Canon G9 and find it harder to take macro shots with it than with my Minolta A2. With the A2 I have a useable viewfinder to help with focus. With the G9, it has to be done with the LCD screen, and I find that more difficult.

 

However, you might try this: Set the camera to macro mode and set the focus to MANUAL (not automatic). A square zoomed-in window should appear on the LCD screen that will give you a better view of the nib. Move the camera back and forth (you're focusing manually) until the nib comes into focus. For more information on using the G10 for macros visit the Canon forum at www.dpreviews.com and ask questions there. Very helpful, very sharp people. You will have to register to post, but the help is worth the effort.

 

 

I have tried your advice and have at last taken what I think maybe okay. I am working at seeing it on the computer.

[repairperson]

Sorry, but you won't with the G10.

The macro mode is only usable at the short (wide angle) end, and way too close to the subject for proper illumination. To get the nib about a third of the size of the picture area, you're down to 3cm to it. The lower portion of the picture will be appreciate darker because of the lens barrel blocking the light.

Also very noticable barrel distortion.

You can alleviate the distortion problem by adding a LA-DC58K, and screwing a 58mm diopter to the end.

To get the nib size similar to the above, you'll be shooting from 20cm out, and using the tele end of the lens, minimizing distortion, and still have room for lighting it properly. You can also increase the magnification by changing the diopters, or even combining them (not advised).

Be warned, beyond ISO400, the image is very noisy/grainy, with rather low quality resolution.

 

 

Thank you for your help. What Camera would you suggest for clear excellent pictures?

[labeo]

Sorry, but you won't with the G10.

The macro mode is only usable at the short (wide angle) end, and way too close to the subject for proper illumination. To get the nib about a third of the size of the picture area, you're down to 3cm to it. The lower portion of the picture will be appreciate darker because of the lens barrel blocking the light.

Also very noticable barrel distortion.

You can alleviate the distortion problem by adding a LA-DC58K, and screwing a 58mm diopter to the end.

To get the nib size similar to the above, you'll be shooting from 20cm out, and using the tele end of the lens, minimizing distortion, and still have room for lighting it properly. You can also increase the magnification by changing the diopters, or even combining them (not advised).

Be warned, beyond ISO400, the image is very noisy/grainy, with rather low quality resolution.

 

 

Thank you for your help. What Camera would you suggest for clear excellent pictures?

 

 

Nikon d50 with micro-nikkor 105mm f2.8 af-d or af-g

 

Symple reflex with white balance, 5af point, 6mpx resolution, raw mode ad legendary nikon f-mount + micro 105 you have a killer solution.

[I am not a number]

I am considering a canon g10. I want to take excellent pictures of nibs and barrel inscriptions like the ones I see on this network. Will it do the job well?

Yes.

 

Also, see this thread...

Edited May 28, 2009 by I am not a number

[AndreaDuni]

if you look here: http://www.flickr.com/cameras/canon/powershot_g10/ and select MACRO at "Now showing" field (at the bottom of the page) you can see some G10 macro example. I think they are not so bad, but friends of mine thought the camera is too much expensive for what you get.

BTW, also my A720 IS can do good macros:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3138/3346164263_aa533255b4.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3391/3347000282_1cbe71cdb3.jpg

[I am not a number]

A few quick and dirty snaps taken handheld in poor light of my reground Namiki Bamboo Stub.

 

Unretouched or cropped full frame Macro Shot (file size reduced to save bandwidth)...

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/photoboris/G10TestShotStraight.jpg

 

 

Same Macro Shot, still unretouched but now cropped (file size reduced to save bandwidth)...

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/photoboris/G10TestShotStraightCrop1.jpg

 

Same Macro Shot, still unretouched but cropped even further (file size reduced to save bandwidth)...

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/photoboris/G10TestShotStraightCrop2.jpg

 

Very slightly different angle (again handheld in poor light) with very basic one-click enhancement in Corel Paintshop Pro.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/photoboris/G10TestShot4.jpg

 

Are these good enough to show what the G10 can handle straight out of the box?

Edited May 29, 2009 by I am not a number

[labeo]

A few quick and dirty snaps taken handheld in poor light of my reground Namiki Bamboo Stub.

 

Unretouched or cropped full frame Macro Shot (file size reduced to save bandwidth)...

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/photoboris/G10TestShotStraight.jpg

 

 

Same Macro Shot, still unretouched but now cropped (file size reduced to save bandwidth)...

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/photoboris/G10TestShotStraightCrop1.jpg

 

Same Macro Shot, still unretouched but cropped even further (file size reduced to save bandwidth)...

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/photoboris/G10TestShotStraightCrop2.jpg

 

Very slightly different angle (again handheld in poor light) with very basic one-click enhancement in Corel Paintshop Pro.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/photoboris/G10TestShot4.jpg

 

Are these good enough to show what the G10 can handle straight out of the box?

 

g10 is no good for macro maybe finepix is better

 

[I am not a number]

g10 is no good for macro maybe finepix is better

Talk me through the problems with the performance of the G10 based on the shots I posted...

[labeo]

g10 is no good for macro maybe finepix is better

Talk me through the problems with the performance of the G10 based on the shots I posted...

 

the problem is not on the pics that you have posted.

The problem is the g10 sensor poor of dynamic color range also the 1/1,7” ccd sensor with 14,7 megapixel is exaggerated.

for a 1/1,7" ccd sensor the max usable resolution is 8mx.

Also the 28-140 zoom is 2,8/4,5 is not more correct and show a evident distorsion.

Fujifilm FinePix S100FS is better because have a great sensor with high colors range but I prefere the fuji s5pro reflex with nikon F-mount

 

[I am not a number]

the problem is not on the pics that you have posted.

Post some better pictures given the conditions that I shot in. For the purposes of the OP's original question the G10 produces a great result.

 

You prefer the Fuji whilst I am glad that I have the Canon G10, personal preferences vary.

[labeo]

the problem is not on the pics that you have posted.

Post some better pictures given the conditions that I shot in. For the purposes of the OP's original question the G10 produces a great result.

 

You prefer the Fuji whilst I am glad that I have the Canon G10, personal preferences vary.

 

 

for me g10 is not a good camera, especially for macro and the pics that I see are very bad.

 

Sorry

Edited May 29, 2009 by labeo

[labeo]

here:

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/in...howtopic=109124

 

with nikon d50 and PC-Micro Nikkor 85mm f2.8mm