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I like piston fillers and I like Japanese Fine nibs

Is there a Japanese piston filler?

What's it like and what is the capacity and reliability etc?

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I do not know if the Pilot Custom 823 qualifies. It is listed as a plunger-vac style filler, which to me means about the same.

 

Here is an article from stylophilesonline:

 

Pilot Custom 823

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Piston-fill or plunger-fill?

 

Piston-fill usually refers to the system used in pens like those in the Pelikan Souveran and Traditional series.

 

Custom 823 would be a good example of a plunger-fill.

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Which one is more durable, the plunger type (like in a Pilot 823) or the piston system (like in the Pelikans).

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Sailor is supposedly planning a piston-filler for regular production, but the release date keeps getting pushed back. I saw some piston-filled Japanese pens where the celluloid was made by the company, but it had a Bock or Schmidt nib. Not sure if that qualifies as a Japanese piston-filler...

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I have Sailor 95th Anniversary pen Realo that is piston filler.The quality of the piston filling system seems the same as those of Montblanc or Pelikan.It is interesting that I can see the ink window even when the pen capped. Sailor is a lover of pleasure.I posted the review of the pen in Japanese(sorry). I will post the review of it in this FPN in English in the near future.I know Platinum 70th Anniversary pens are also piston filler.Those are very rare pens but you can see the review here (sorry, only in Japanese).According to the review,the ink or water will gush out of the pen when the spindle nut is turned, very elaborate! ,it says.

 

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Sailor is supposedly planning a piston-filler for regular production, but the release date keeps getting pushed back.

 

I suspect we'll see Sailor's piston filler Real Soon Now. :rolleyes:

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I have Sailor 95th Anniversary pen Realo that is piston filler.The quality of the piston filling system seems the same as those of Montblanc or Pelikan.It is interesting that I can see the ink window even when the pen capped. Sailor is a lover of pleasure.I posted the review of the pen in Japanese(sorry). I will post the review of it in this FPN in English in the near future.I know Platinum 70th Anniversary pens are also piston filler.Those are very rare pens but you can see the review here (sorry, only in Japanese).According to the review,the ink or water will gush out of the pen when the spindle nut is turned, very elaborate! ,it says.

 

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Nice review, and thanks for the link. I look forward to the English version. I'm not entirely sure what Sailor were getting at with "REliance And LOcus". I think they might have latched onto a less than usual meaning of the words.

 

It must be nice to be able to go to the Sailor Pen clinics and get your pen adjusted to your liking.

 

One question: is「尾栓回転」= "Piston filler" ? I'm guessing it is...

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Sailor is supposedly planning a piston-filler for regular production, but the release date keeps getting pushed back.

 

I suspect we'll see Sailor's piston filler Real Soon Now. :rolleyes:

 

I suspect someone knows something about it... :roflmho:

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One question: is「尾栓回転」= "Piston filler" ? I'm guessing it is...

 

尾栓　means tail knob, 回転　means turn, that is , after all piston filler.

 

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Sailor is supposedly planning a piston-filler for regular production, but the release date keeps getting pushed back.

 

I suspect we'll see Sailor's piston filler Real Soon Now. :rolleyes:

 

I suspect someone knows something about it... :roflmho:

 

I heard New Sailor's piston filler is named " Profit Realo" . More precise info(price, picture, nib etc) is supposed to be released very soon.

 

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Which one is more durable, the plunger type (like in a Pilot 823) or the piston system (like in the Pelikans).

 

The piston is more durable because it doesn't build up a lot of pressure, which can cause seal failure.

 

I really hope Sailor makes Professional Gear versions of their piston-filler, and especially a KOP Pro Gear version. Does anyone know if there are plans for that in the works?

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They just announced that it is going to produce PF version of Sailor Profit. I do not know English name for it.

 

 

 

 

Which one is more durable, the plunger type (like in a Pilot 823) or the piston system (like in the Pelikans).

 

The piston is more durable because it doesn't build up a lot of pressure, which can cause seal failure.

 

I really hope Sailor makes Professional Gear versions of their piston-filler, and especially a KOP Pro Gear version. Does anyone know if there are plans for that in the works?

 

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They just announced that it is going to produce PF version of Sailor Profit. I do not know English name for it.

 

 

The retail price of this pen in Japan is 31,500 yen.

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That almost makes me regret getting my Pilot Custom 823. I got it for the same retail price in Japan, and its nib is much drier than the Sailor nib.

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Wait, where did Sailor announce that the piston-filled Profit will be 31,500 yen? I just looked on their site, and that's the price of their Profit right now. I can't imagine a piston-filled version would cost the same.

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Tsujigiri, you can get your nib tuned and the flow adjusted. The Pilot #10 and #15 nibs are excellent. Of course, the finer the nib, the harder it is to get a wetter flow, but it can be done.

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Good point, I had forgotten about that. From what I hear, it's relatively easy to add flow, but reducing flow is difficult...

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To my surprise,today I hear from a fountain lover that the piston-filling system of REALO is fragile. He knew at least 3 REALOs were broken. And Sailor releases Profit REALO after improving the system thoroughly. That is the reason of delay.

 

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