Genius Pen Manufacturer?

[maia]

Hi there m8s

I've been searching google.com for Genius Pens homepage (not the hardware dudes ). Anyway, I know this brand should be a bit "lame", read not recognised at all.

So far, I've only got this, this and this.

I've also seen stated Genius is a Taiwanese manufacturer (according to the 1st link), but last link states otherwise (Germany).

All this hype around it since I knew there was a FP and a BP somewhere at my house... I found them (brand new, FP uninked but with international cartdridge inside the barrel) and seems to be made by them. They look very classy, hell they look on par with a good Parker/Waterman/insert maker. The FP has an Iridium nib (Steel), can't remember what size (grade) though. It has a long nib, longer than my Parker 75. The nib is also engraved, detailed (no 18ct obviously...).

Materials should not be very good, but they sure look nice, VERY nice (for me anyway). Also, mine states to have been made in Germany. There is the "Registered" logo after "Genius" too.

I can post a picture if needed, all I wanted is to find the manufacturer's website, but I believe there isn't any (since it's not a good maker I suppose). Even the name looks "lame" to me .

Furthermore, where is the thread that lists all known manufacturers? Tried searching for it in a rush but didn't find it :ph34r: .

Regards and sorry for the long post

 

maia

[Robert Ellis]

Does yours say it was "Made in Germany" or that is has "German Design" or German Engineering" or something to that effect? I am pretty sure that Iread somewhere recently that they were Asian pens that use the German connection as a sort of advertising. As far as I can tel the last link mentions Germany in regards to the nib alone, which could mean any quality really.

 

Ever hear of that Daewoo car whose body was "Designed by ItalDesign," a top design house in Italy, well it was still a Daewoo wasn't it.

Edited January 21, 2006 by Robert Ellis

[Apollo]

I was under the impression that Genius pens were simply IPG's made in the Far East.

[maia]

Ok, here are some pictures. "Germany" is written on the nib since it's an Iridium one. I know the nib is good brand-wise (I believe Iridium is some sort of OEM, since my girlfriend's FP Agatha Ruiz de la Prada uses it too, different style though).

 

On with the pics:

 

Capped

http://maiamo.no.sapo.pt/temp/genius/dsc00636.jpg

 

Cap

http://maiamo.no.sapo.pt/temp/genius/dsc00637.jpg

 

Open (Flash)

http://maiamo.no.sapo.pt/temp/genius/dsc00639.jpg

 

Open (No Flash)

http://maiamo.no.sapo.pt/temp/genius/dsc00640.jpg

 

Nib

http://maiamo.no.sapo.pt/temp/genius/dsc00642.jpg

[Robert Ellis]

IPG nibs are generic nibs made in Germany, nothing special but I suppose better than one might find for cheaper in a Chinese nib. It is, however, mostly marketing so tha Asian pens seem a little better than you would normally think. Pretty pen, though.

[maia]

Another thing I've noticed is that the BP refill is also made by Genius and in Germany.

[Apollo]

Maia, the ballpoit refills may be German, and the nibs on the fountain pens are generic IPG (Iridium Point Germany) affairs, but I'm pretty sure the pens are Asian-made.

[maia]

Maia, the ballpoit refills may be German, and the nibs on the fountain pens are generic IPG (Iridium Point Germany) affairs, but I'm pretty sure the pens are Asian-made.

I guess that sounds right. Wanna ink it but I need to get 3 International Size Converters (like Rotring's) and bottled ink

[Sidney]

In the last two of your three Genius links I understand that the nibs are made in Germany (true or false? I do not know). In your first of three Genius links Mr. Haase says that the parent company of the Genius brand is Sepia Products International. I did a Google search for Sepia and only found a couple of trade directory pages on them.

 

During my search I found where Montblanc took them to court to prevent the sale of Sepia pens in the UK that featured the plum blossom on the cap and nib.

[maia]

In the last two of your three Genius links I understand that the nibs are made in Germany (true or false? I do not know). In your first of three Genius links Mr. Haase says that the parent company of the Genius brand is Sepia Products International. I did a Google search for Sepia and only found a couple of trade directory pages on them.

 

During my search I found where Montblanc took them to court to prevent the sale of Sepia pens in the UK that featured the plum blossom on the cap and nib.

That's why I recognised them from Montblanc... Hope I'm not in trouble :ph34r:

 

EDIT: I conclude this is a Taiwanese penset with german tips and refills. At least the nib on the FP should be nice to write with (I've always liked the feel of Iridium tips).

Edited January 21, 2006 by maia

[Michael Wright]

Hi Maia

 

Norman Haase doesn't seem to have them on his website anymore, but I recollect that he said that they were made in Taiwan, and he mentioned the run-in with MB -- evidently chrysanthemums are too like snowdrops to be used as a trademark.

 

I am told that "Iridium Point Germany" nibs are made in a lot of places, mostly not Germany, and that it's extremely unlikely they're tipped with iridium. Seems to me about the same as "Warranted." But I've got a number that are good writers.

 

Best

 

Michael

[tryphon]

IPG nibs are generic nibs made in Germany, nothing special but I suppose better than one might find for cheaper in a Chinese nib. It is, however, mostly marketing so tha Asian pens seem a little better than you would normally think. Pretty pen, though.

99.999% of IPG nibs are NOT made in Germany.

Most come from China and some from India.

They have no iridium, either, as the pellet at the point is madse of the same steel as the rest of the nib. Some are quite good writers, by the way; some are not.

Definitely not German.

Genius pens are made in Taiwan by the same people who make, among many others, the Xeizo pens now quite popular on eBay.

[krz]

I really don't know much about Genius pens. I have a black one that seems to work ok. On mine Rotring converters are a shade too long, and won't work.

 

I do like the little Elephant design on the clips though!

 

All the best,

[klemenv]

Russian Lada Samara had an engine designed by Porsche.

[PeppWaves03]

I think what you may have there is not a Montblac pen but a Sepia pen. The pens were not intentionally sold as Montblac pens but for all purposes that is exactly what Sepia was trying to do. For more information check this out:

 

http://www.thelawyer.com/trademark-regulations-strengthened/94358.article

[mdbrown]

I think what you may have there is not a Montblac pen but a Sepia pen. The pens were not intentionally sold as Montblac pens but for all purposes that is exactly what Sepia was trying to do. For more information check this out:

 

http://www.thelawyer.com/trademark-regulations-strengthened/94358.article

 

Have to take offense here. I sold them and worked with the company for about 4-5 years. They were NOT trying to emulate Montblanc nor trade on their trademark. The marks are vaguely similar and Sepia removed them after that case. To imply that Sepia meant to defraud customers is a pretty bold statement unless you spoke to someone in the company. I remember when that happened and I DID speak to someone at the company...