Vintage Dunhill Fountain Pen

[Nathalie919]

I have a vintage Dunhill pen which was part of a gift set given to my father in the late 1980's/early 1990's(?). It is slender and black, about 5.5 inches long. The following is inscribed on the nib, Dunhill 14k 585. The nib has ornate designs as well. There is also an inscription on the rim of the pen cap with reads DUNHILL....GERMANY (some kind of symbol looks like a dome with a line through it).... M is on the bottom of the pen and d on the top.

I found some similar pens on line but none exactly like this one. Is it a Dunhill Black Lacquer Sidecar Streamliner Fountain Pen? The nib is obviously gold but I wonder what the other metal on the pen is made of? I'm attaching a picture.

Any and all thoughts and suggestions are greatly appreciated!

Edited October 21, 2010 by Nathalie919

[Bo Bo Olson]

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[Nathalie919]

I have a vintage Dunhill pen which was part of a gift set given to my father in the late 1980's/early 1990's(?). It is slender and black, about 5.5 inches long. The following is inscribed on the nib, Dunhill 14k 585. The nib has ornate designs as well. There is also an inscription on the rim of the pen cap with reads DUNHILL....GERMANY (some kind of symbol looks like a dome with a line through it).... M is on the bottom of the pen and d on the top.

I found some similar pens on line but none exactly like this one. Is it a Dunhill Black Lacquer Sidecar Streamliner Fountain Pen? The nib is obviously gold but I wonder what the other metal on the pen is made of? I'm attaching a picture.

Any and all thoughts and suggestions are greatly appreciated!

[Nathalie919]

Thanks Bo Bo. Moving too fast today!

[mikerph]

I have a vintage Dunhill pen which was part of a gift set given to my father in the late 1980's/early 1990's(?). It is slender and black, about 5.5 inches long. The following is inscribed on the nib, Dunhill 14k 585. The nib has ornate designs as well. There is also an inscription on the rim of the pen cap with reads DUNHILL....GERMANY (some kind of symbol looks like a dome with a line through it).... M is on the bottom of the pen and d on the top.

I found some similar pens on line but none exactly like this one. Is it a Dunhill Black Lacquer Sidecar Streamliner Fountain Pen? The nib is obviously gold but I wonder what the other metal on the pen is made of? I'm attaching a picture.

Any and all thoughts and suggestions are greatly appreciated!

It's probably not a sidecar--they were made much later. There were some Dunhills made in Germany by Mont Blanc in the 1980's that were basically a modified Noblesse(Mont Blanc).I have a gunmetal and gold one that will actually interchange parts with a Noblesse of the same era I have! Mine looks the same as yours--just gunmetal instead of lacquer.

Edited October 21, 2010 by mikerph

[Nathalie919]

Very interesting. Thank you kindly for your input.

[Bo Bo Olson]

I saw a Dunhil when they was about King of Pens, in 1958. Some man was going to pay off a large debt, and showed everyone the $1,000* bill he was going to do it with.

Min. Wage. $0.75 .....

 

And he'd bought a Dunhil pen and lighter.

 

All three made a large impression on a 10 year old boy.

 

*Way back when you was free to own and spend what ever size of money you wanted.

 

$ bill sizes, 100,000, I think 50,000 you had to endorce it from one rich guy to antoher. I'm not sure but don't think the 10,000, 5,000 had that too. I know the 1,000 did not.

This was so far back...I'd never seen a hundred dollar bill....I mean money was worth a lot back then...in the day of the large nickle candy bar, and a new three bedroom house for $18,500.

Ted Williams was making $100,000 a year and Mantle and Mays were not.

[Nathalie919]

I saw a Dunhil when they was about King of Pens, in 1958. Some man was going to pay off a large debt, and showed everyone the $1,000* bill he was going to do it with.

Min. Wage. $0.75 .....

 

And he'd bought a Dunhil pen and lighter.

 

All three made a large impression on a 10 year old boy.

 

*Way back when you was free to own and spend what ever size of money you wanted.

 

$ bill sizes, 100,000, I think 50,000 you had to endorce it from one rich guy to antoher. I'm not sure but don't think the 10,000, 5,000 had that too. I know the 1,000 did not.

This was so far back...I'd never seen a hundred dollar bill....I mean money was worth a lot back then...in the day of the large nickle candy bar, and a new three bedroom house for $18,500.

Ted Williams was making $100,000 a year and Mantle and Mays were not.

[tutelman]

Hi Nathalie.

 

I believe your pen is a Dunhill Gemline (Model WR181). At least, that is how Dunhill identified it to me. (I have the identical pen.)

[significantpass]

Yeah it's a Dunhill Gemline. I've got one too and it writes really well.

[Nathalie919]

Thank you everyone for your input. I am curious to know when Dunhill started putting serial numbers on their pens? How do I know the pen that I have is authentic?? I sent an email to Dunhill but I have not heard back.

Thanks! :embarrassed_smile:

[jar]

Thank you everyone for your input. I am curious to know when Dunhill started putting serial numbers on their pens? How do I know the pen that I have is authentic?? I sent an email to Dunhill but I have not heard back.

Thanks! :embarrassed_smile:

 

The older pens like the Gemline were not copied as much as the newer versions and the few replicas of them I've seen all have cheap steel nibs that can be tested with a magnet.

Edited October 23, 2010 by jar

[Nathalie919]

I did test the nib with a magnet and it is gold. Thanks again for the great input!

[jar]

I did test the nib with a magnet and it is gold. Thanks again for the great input!

 

Great. Just understand (and this is only for future reference) that there are non-magnetic steels too so it is not a sure test. It does catch most of the fakes though.

 

edited for appalin spallin and fat fingers

Edited October 23, 2010 by jar