I invented something (big) and I need an investor

[OwnInk]

I just filed a patent application for Own Ink, a system for producing and validating personal, custom, safety inks. Those inks are primarily intended for fountain pens. I envision that future pens will have some safety device, like a lock, and its own ink, that can be validated by color and chemistry. The Internet will be the ideal way to promote the inks, to take orders, to personalize them, and to validate them.

I need someone with around U$D 100,000 to acquire 50% of this project and bring it to reality. We have 9 months time to apply for a US patent, under protective rights for the international patent law.

Is there anyone interested? Anyone can suggest me another website? See http://www.ownink.com for details.

Thanks!

 

Sergio

Edited December 28, 2004 by OwnInk

[Titivillus]

I just filed a patent application for Own Ink, a system for producing and validating personal, custom, safety inks. Those inks are primarily intended for fountain pens. I envision that future pens will have some safety device, like a lock, and its own ink, that can be validated by color and chemistry. The Internet will be the ideal way to promote the inks, to take orders, to personalize them, and to validate them.

I need someone with around U$D 100,000 to acquire 50% of this project and bring it to reality. We have 9 months time to apply for a US patent, under protective rights for the international patent law.

Is there anyone interested? Anyone can suggest me another website? See http://www.ownink.com for details.

Thanks!

 

Sergio

I know they already make ink that contains DNA of the person signing to validate that the signature is real. This might be the next best thing. With thumb scanners around $40 in stores it should be easy to make a pen where you swipe your finger over the reader and it unlocks the cap. Probably would have to do it as a cartridge to confirm composition.

 

 

Kurt H

[Titivillus]

I just filed a patent application for Own Ink, a system for producing and validating personal, custom, safety inks. Those inks are primarily intended for fountain pens. I envision that future pens will have some safety device, like a lock, and its own ink, that can be validated by color and chemistry. The Internet will be the ideal way to promote the inks, to take orders, to personalize them, and to validate them.

I need someone with around U$D 100,000 to acquire 50% of this project and bring it to reality. We have 9 months time to apply for a US patent, under protective rights for the international patent law.

Is there anyone interested? Anyone can suggest me another website? See http://www.ownink.com for details.

Thanks!

 

Sergio

Also unless you have some typoe of Pantone corrector for your monitor what color is on the screen is not going to be what's coming out of the pen.

 

And I think you may be fooling yourself by saying that Chemical certification of any signature will be a fast and easy process, if it is enough to be beyond random and of a large enough database with long term stability to the components you are getting into some expensive chemical test and equipment.

 

Kurt H

Edited December 28, 2004 by Tytyvyllus

[OwnInk]

Thanks for your input !

 

Let me add that putting one´s DNA in the ink is not simple. It is a complex lab procedure with potential health risks. Some retroviruses are trasmited even by very purified DNA.

 

Chemical components are safer and cheaper to detect. Provided you know which chemicals... And this info is not released to the public.

 

Color detection is only the first level of our authentication scheme. We will include a Pantone definition with every ink.

 

I assume that people will like to have their own ink color or tone, plus some secret tracing component. Banks and government will also like the idea.

 

Fountain pens will be again widely used... if I can take my invention to the market.

 

I welcome every idea!

[chad234]

While I wish you luck, you have a rough road ahead.

 

Your matching colors to signatures is a nice idea for four people, but gets out of hand for 4000. The various shades are not distinguishable by many people, different pens lay down different quantities of ink, skewing the apparent color balance.

 

Viewing the colors of a signature to verify over a website is not likely to work, too many color variations occur simply from monitor variance.

 

This will not work for checks in the US, which now must be signed with black or blue (this will likely change to black only) under the check 21 law. (Though the final color regualtions ahve not been laid down).

 

As well, business owners, especially small businesses, will not want to invest in any specialized equipment to read your inks.

 

Basicly, while I think this is a novel idea, it is not likely to become a viable identification verification method. Of course, that is purely IMHO.

 

As much as I love fountain pens, I recognize that most people do not want them. They want cheap, disposable pens. They do not care enough about the words they write to use a fine instrument. Others just don't care for pens at all.

 

I hate to sound negative, but your plan does not sound very realistic. I would not want to see some unsuspecting member of this forum to get sucked in and losing their money, which is almost certainly what would happen.

 

Further, I think it is bad form for you to come here and ask for money, when you have never made any contribution to this forum at all. This is a community based on shared knowledge, not a barrel to go fishing in.

 

As well, on your website you list yourself as having a Ph.D., what is your field of study and were did you receive your degree?

 

Legitimate business enterprises have established ways of generating capital, trolling for suckers on the internet is not one of them.

Edited December 28, 2004 by chad234

[mchristi]

This will not work for checks in the US, which now must be signed with black or blue (this will likely change to black only) under the check 21 law. (Though the final color regualtions ahve not been laid down).

What?? You can't be serious, can you? There is no way banks, Federal Reserve authorities, or others are going to be able to police this. Most colors of ink, except for the very lightest or low contrast between check and ink, will show up in electronic scans. Heck, even the signatures themselves on checks aren't usually looked at unless there is an actual problem (fraud, theft, disputes, etc.).

 

If this really does come to pass, I think I'll still sign checks with Noodler's Zhivago or PR Plum if that's what's in the pen I happen to have at the moment. A little civil disobedience, if you will.

 

Mark C.

[OwnInk]

Thanks for every feedback.

 

I respond to a few objections:

 

- I appreciate the work of chad234 defending the purity of this forum, however, nobody needs to worry. I am not looking for naive investors. There are no many left of those, and I do not expect to find them here. If someone invests in this project, is because he sees a reasonable chance of getting a good profit.

 

- The idea is very mature. My background and business plan are posted in my site.

 

- If the project grows, this Forum, as a place for fountain pen ideas exchange, will also grow and develop, instead of keeping a lower profile every day in this fast-paced market environment.

 

- It is interesting to learn that a law mandates blue or black ink. I expect to force that law into oblivion.

 

- I plan to have different, ascending levels of ink validation: color on a PC monitor, a Pantone chart, a magnifying glass, a microscope, a fast and simple chem reagent set, and a more complex chemical lab.

 

Have a happy and succesful 2005 !

 

Sergio

[twitch2021]

Hey…just curious how this all turned out…

[OCArt]

Well, his website URL no longer works so that's an indication.

2 hours ago, twitch2021 said:

Hey…just curious how this all turned out…

 

[A Smug Dill]

11 minutes ago, OCArt said:

Well, his website URL no longer works so that's an indication.

 

Perhaps Sergio sold the idea, or the startup business, to someone for a Brazilian dollars; and OwnInk became OwnedInk (or some other brand) under Yafa's, Newell Brands', or some private capital venture's umbrella?

[Carguy]

And he hasn’t been here in over 15 years, so I’m guessing it didn’t all work out.

[bunnspecial]

Yeah, I'm going to guess too that this never came to fruition.

 

If you want something of the same general principle as is discussed here, Noodler's Warden Series inks are claimed(per my understanding) to be mixed on a per-bottle basis with intentional variations in composition. You get what you get when you buy a bottle, but Nathan also claims that the variation is enough that someone who wants to could match to a specific bottle of ink.

 

Those inks also have some other interesting fraud features. They're not "bulletproof" inks in the sense that anything you do to them will leave them absolutely unchanged, but rather will remain completely legible against any attempt to remove or alter them that doesn't destroy the paper they're on, including lasers(that specific one came from a challenge Nathan put out for someone to do remove a normal bulletproof ink without destroying the paper, and some grad students at I think MIT did it with a specific type of laser-the Warden inks fixed that). Rather, if you attempt to alter them by bleaching, for example, they will change in such a way that they are legible but obviously tampered with. They're interesting inks, and for once the bottle to bottle variation is a feature and not a bug.

 

I have a bottle of Bad Blue Heron(pretty sure all the inks that start with "Bad" are Warden inks) and although I've not used it much it's an ink I could see myself using every day.

[twitch2021]

3 hours ago, Carguy said:

And he hasn’t been here in over 15 years, so I’m guessing it didn’t all work out.

Oh he’s so rich now that he’s above using the internet.

[Estycollector]

The web site is gone.