Prototype Skripsert?

[speerbob]

Hi, I have a really pretty Sheaffer Skripset. It's a brushed finish with a translucent white lacquer and ruby and diamond band. I talked to one very knowledgable sheaffer expert who says it could be a prototype as it's not a cataloged design. Has anyone else seen this or know anything about it? Thanks, BOB

[kirchh]

Hi, I have a really pretty Sheaffer Skripset. It's a brushed finish with a translucent white lacquer and ruby and diamond band. I talked to one very knowledgable sheaffer expert who says it could be a prototype as it's not a cataloged design. Has anyone else seen this or know anything about it? Thanks, BOB

Looks like a standard-issue Lady Sheaffer XV. Who was the Sheaffer expert, and what did s/he say was unusual about it?

 

--Daniel

Edited April 29, 2009 by kirchh

[speerbob]

Hi, I have a really pretty Sheaffer Skripset. It's a brushed finish with a translucent white lacquer and ruby and diamond band. I talked to one very knowledgable sheaffer expert who says it could be a prototype as it's not a cataloged design. Has anyone else seen this or know anything about it? Thanks, BOB

Looks like a standard-issue Lady Sheaffer XV. Who was the Sheaffer expert, and what did s/he say was unusual about it?

 

--Daniel

 

Hi, It was the brushed finish, not a pattern, with the translucent white that he thought was unusual. You know him, but i won't say here. cheers, BOB

[kirchh]

Hi, I have a really pretty Sheaffer Skripset. It's a brushed finish with a translucent white lacquer and ruby and diamond band. I talked to one very knowledgable sheaffer expert who says it could be a prototype as it's not a cataloged design. Has anyone else seen this or know anything about it? Thanks, BOB

Looks like a standard-issue Lady Sheaffer XV. Who was the Sheaffer expert, and what did s/he say was unusual about it?

Hi, It was the brushed finish, not a pattern, with the translucent white that he thought was unusual. You know him, but i won't say here. cheers, BOB

Hmm, I guess I'd have to see it in person. Here's the pertinent catalog page from Pendemonium's web site:

 

http://www.pendemonium.com/images/pens/sheaffer/shf_cat_lady_3lg.gif

 

--Daniel

[Ray Roewert]

Hi, I have a really pretty Sheaffer Skripset. It's a brushed finish with a translucent white lacquer and ruby and diamond band. I talked to one very knowledgable sheaffer expert who says it could be a prototype as it's not a cataloged design. Has anyone else seen this or know anything about it? Thanks, BOB

 

Bob, my wife collects Skripserts and has three like that one. We have a copy of the Sheaffer catalog showing all the Lady Sheaffer Skripserts, and this particular one is #XV and listed as Moire pattern. They're nice pens. Unless yours has some unique feature that we can't see I don't think it's a prototype.

Edited April 29, 2009 by Ray Roewert

[speerbob]

Hi, I have a really pretty Sheaffer Skripset. It's a brushed finish with a translucent white lacquer and ruby and diamond band. I talked to one very knowledgable sheaffer expert who says it could be a prototype as it's not a cataloged design. Has anyone else seen this or know anything about it? Thanks, BOB

 

Bob, my wife collects Skripserts and has three like that one. We have a copy of the Sheaffer catalog showing all the Lady Sheaffer Skripserts, and this particular one is #XV and listed as Moire pattern. They're nice pens. Unless yours has some unique feature that we can't see I don't think it's a prototype.

 

 

Hi, Ok I'd say you're right. When I think of a moire pattern I think of a true guilloche moire like on a Waterman CF. This may be the Satin finish from the catalog page. I would agree, it's probably a standard pattern. Thanks, BOB

 

[kirchh]

Hi, I have a really pretty Sheaffer Skripset. It's a brushed finish with a translucent white lacquer and ruby and diamond band. I talked to one very knowledgable sheaffer expert who says it could be a prototype as it's not a cataloged design. Has anyone else seen this or know anything about it? Thanks, BOB

 

Bob, my wife collects Skripserts and has three like that one. We have a copy of the Sheaffer catalog showing all the Lady Sheaffer Skripserts, and this particular one is #XV and listed as Moire pattern. They're nice pens. Unless yours has some unique feature that we can't see I don't think it's a prototype.

Hi, Ok I'd say you're right. When I think of a moire pattern I think of a true guilloche moire like on a Waterman CF. This may be the Satin finish from the catalog page. I would agree, it's probably a standard pattern. Thanks, BOB

If it's the Satin finish, this is an uncataloged pen -- there's no model with the Satin finish and that ring of brilliants. I suggest you find another example of an XV to compare the finishes.

 

--Daniel

[david i]

Hi, I have a really pretty Sheaffer Skripset. It's a brushed finish with a translucent white lacquer and ruby and diamond band. I talked to one very knowledgable sheaffer expert who says it could be a prototype as it's not a cataloged design. Has anyone else seen this or know anything about it? Thanks, BOB

 

Here is one I recently sold

 

http://removed.xyz/websitesalespics/pen2583sm.jpg

 

Whether or not something is (to the best of what passes for our knowledge) catalogued, the word, "prototype" best is used with caution.

 

regards

 

david

[speerbob]

David, you're right prototype is a way overused word. Uncataloged is better. Looks like the same one to me. Do you agree it is the satin finish? There is no pattern, so not a moire. cheers, BOB

 

[david i]

David, you're right prototype is a way overused word. Uncataloged is better. Looks like the same one to me. Do you agree it is the satin finish? There is no pattern, so not a moire. cheers, BOB

 

I lean toward Moire, though I concede fair ignorance of these.

 

I have couple of the copper-gold colored moire pens. I no longer have the white pen in hand, but vaguely recall similar look. The moire is very subtle in these compared to say, Parker Pastel Pens in moire finish. I do believe the white pen had a pattern, just very subtle. But... I could be wrong. The diffused light I use for my catalogue-style shots tends to haze out such patterns.

 

Here is a moire currently on my website... not the white though.

 

regards

 

David

 

http://www.removed.xyz/websitesalespics/pen2619x850a.jpg

[kirchh]

David, you're right prototype is a way overused word. Uncataloged is better. Looks like the same one to me. Do you agree it is the satin finish? There is no pattern, so not a moire. cheers, BOB

Bob -

 

The question is not whether any of us thinks "Moire" is a ill-fitting term for this finish, or if "Satin" would be a better fit, it's whether Sheaffer called this finish Moire or Satin, and all the evidence presented here is that this is the Moire finish.

 

Waterman overlays in the pattern they called "Filigree" are not filigree, in my estimation -- they're properly called cutwork. But I wouldn't say that I have an uncataloged pen because it's not correctly called filigree.

 

--Daniel

[speerbob]

David, you're right prototype is a way overused word. Uncataloged is better. Looks like the same one to me. Do you agree it is the satin finish? There is no pattern, so not a moire. cheers, BOB

Bob -

 

The question is not whether any of us thinks "Moire" is a ill-fitting term for this finish, or if "Satin" would be a better fit, it's whether Sheaffer called this finish Moire or Satin, and all the evidence presented here is that this is the Moire finish.

 

Waterman overlays in the pattern they called "Filigree" are not filigree, in my estimation -- they're properly called cutwork. But I wouldn't say that I have an uncataloged pen because it's not correctly called filigree.

 

--Daniel

 

Based on David's photo of the gold one and the catalog info, I'll go with moire then! Seems to be the same. I have sold these before, but I never had the white and I didn't know the pattern name before so I just used a generic term like brushed finish. This is all great info! Thanks to everyone for the info. I love David's photos! Cheers, BOB

 

[trauha]

What colors have been seen or were available on the brilliants on the Skripsert XV?
Did they come in many colors? Was the band always in one color of stone?