waterman blue black

[chuancao]

Hope you find this helpful when choosing your BB. I don't know if it's just my bottle but my Waterman is a lot more blue than Diamine. Diamine dries to a nice green, but it's still green!

 

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk161/lindachuan2008/watermanBB.jpg

[Ovidius]

Nice review, I really like Waterman Blue\Black. I would actually call it the perfect ink as far as flow, lubrication, drying time, shading, etc… are concerned. The only funny thing about this ink, is that it looks different in every pen that I fill with it. It can be very light, very dark, or show hints of green, and it dries to a different colour from the colour that I see when I first put down a line. It is fun, but slightly frustrating at times.

[Ondina]

Nice review of two great inks. Have you experienced any of the issues mentioned in this thread early at the forum with Diamine's BB? https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/in...showtopic=52919

[chuancao]

Nice review of two great inks. Have you experienced any of the issues mentioned in this thread early at the forum with Diamine's BB? https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/in...showtopic=52919

 

Yes! I have all the problems and issues mentioned in that thread. I thought I had a bad nib on my Visconti because there were cakes (nib creep) and also ink buildup on the underside of the nib (feed slits). So wet that it feathered like crazy on certain papers, etc.

 

People seem to love the color of Diamine BB, though. I only like it under flourescent lights cuz any hints of yellow will make the blue look realy green!

 

Now - with regard to all this buildup and nib creep, is that really bad for the pen?

[Garageboy]

OTOH, the Waterman will fade into the color Diamine BB is out of the nib.

[Tonux]

HI

 

Waterman BB isn't really Blue-Black. It seems more like a dark turquoise when it dries.

Montblanc BB is more accurate that most of BB's inks I know.

[CharlieB]

I find Waterman Blue Black, Diamine Blue Black, and Noodlers Blue Black to all have too much green for my taste.

 

I find the color of Pelikan Blue Black to be better, but it is a bit grayish.

 

I haven't tried Parker Blue Black or Sheaffer Blue Black, but I've heard that neither is very dark.

 

Private Reserve has the best color, Midnight Blues, but it dries too slowly.

 

I'm afraid to use Montblanc Blue Black or Lamy Blue Black because of the iron gall content.

 

I just got some Pilot Blue Black in the mail, and am eager to try it -- perhaps later this weekend.

 

I wish I could find a source for Dupont Blue Black. I think that's the color (and performance) that I'm seeking.

Edited May 3, 2008 by CharlieB

[chuancao]

I find both Waterman Blue Black, Diamine Blue Black, and Noodlers Blue Black to all have too much green for my taste.

 

I find the color of Pelikan Blue Black to be better, but it is a bit grayish.

 

I haven't tried Parker Blue Black or Sheaffer Blue Black, but I've heard that neither is very dark.

 

Private Reserve has the best color, Midnight Blues, but it dries too slowly.

 

I'm afraid to use Montblanc Blue Black or Lamy Blue Black because of the iron gall content.

 

I just got some Pilot Blue Black in the mail, and am eager to try it -- perhaps later this weekend.

 

I wish I could find a source for Dupont Blue Black. I think that's the color (and performance) that I'm seeking.

 

Charlie: Did you get the new Pilot Blue Black from that Japanese site? Anyway - please report back and let me know.

 

I have grown to like Diamine blue black but the flow is way to generous and always creates cakes around the tine split on whatever pen I use.

[wpblaw]

I find both Waterman Blue Black, Diamine Blue Black, and Noodlers Blue Black to all have too much green for my taste.

 

I find the color of Pelikan Blue Black to be better, but it is a bit grayish.

 

I haven't tried Parker Blue Black or Sheaffer Blue Black, but I've heard that neither is very dark.

 

Private Reserve has the best color, Midnight Blues, but it dries too slowly.

 

I'm afraid to use Montblanc Blue Black or Lamy Blue Black because of the iron gall content.

 

I just got some Pilot Blue Black in the mail, and am eager to try it -- perhaps later this weekend.

 

I wish I could find a source for Dupont Blue Black. I think that's the color (and performance) that I'm seeking.

 

Charlie: Did you get the new Pilot Blue Black from that Japanese site? Anyway - please report back and let me know.

 

I have grown to like Diamine blue black but the flow is way to generous and always creates cakes around the tine split on whatever pen I use.

 

 

I'd like to know, too. I really like Pelikan 4001 BB, but it's terribly chalky in dry writers, and it's really water resistant - to the point where I wonder if it has some of the MB/Lamy iron gall properties? It really does look similar to my Lamy BB (and that corroded two Lamy steel nibs).

 

I don't hate the blue/green properties of the inks Charlie mentioned, and I'm "off" the PR inks after drying issues and film forming two of them...though Midnight Blues is exactly what I seek! What of Noodler's BB? I'm liking Starry Night in wet pens, but would like a true blackish blue without that nagging green!

 

Has anybody mixed Aurora blue and black?

 

[davidwholt]

This review has me wanting to try Platinum Blue Black

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/in...st&p=384517

 

I find Waterman Blue Black, Diamine Blue Black, and Noodlers Blue Black to all have too much green for my taste.

 

I find the color of Pelikan Blue Black to be better, but it is a bit grayish.

 

I haven't tried Parker Blue Black or Sheaffer Blue Black, but I've heard that neither is very dark.

 

Private Reserve has the best color, Midnight Blues, but it dries too slowly.

 

I'm afraid to use Montblanc Blue Black or Lamy Blue Black because of the iron gall content.

 

I just got some Pilot Blue Black in the mail, and am eager to try it -- perhaps later this weekend.

 

I wish I could find a source for Dupont Blue Black. I think that's the color (and performance) that I'm seeking.

 

[london]

Nice review, I really like Waterman Blue\Black. I would actually call it the perfect ink as far as flow, lubrication, drying time, shading, etc… are concerned. The only funny thing about this ink, is that it looks different in every pen that I fill with it. It can be very light, very dark, or show hints of green, and it dries to a different colour from the colour that I see when I first put down a line. It is fun, but slightly frustrating at times.

My exact thoughts too

[davidwholt]

I wish I could find a source for Dupont Blue Black. I think that's the color (and performance) that I'm seeking.

Sorry if you already know about this,

but the closest I have found would be to mix black and blue from here (no affilliation).

 

http://store.nexternal.com/shared/StoreFro...et=products.asp

 

This site (no aff) offers their blue, black and violet at a better price

 

http://www.theinkflow.com/cgi-bin/commerce...p;key=DPX040150

 

 

I too am looking for a BB that may have less nib creep and less chance of the piston sticking

in my Pelikan M200 than my Noodlers Aircorp.

Edited June 29, 2008 by davidwholt

[Stephen-I-am]

If you get it, please post your experiences. The color in my bottle doesn't match the review color, which can happen for a number of reasons.

 

This review has me wanting to try Platinum Blue Black

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/in...st&p=384517

[TataiFromIndia]

Hope you find this helpful when choosing your BB. I don't know if it's just my bottle but my Waterman is a lot more blue than Diamine. Diamine dries to a nice green, but it's still green!

 

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk161/lindachuan2008/watermanBB.jpg

 

My waterman blue-black dosent seem like this one at all,but it resembles that diamine blue black.

if u search the net,you will get many varities of waterman,blue black(not joking).just compare them with each other.

 

[sofian]

IMHO Waterman Blue Black isn't really blue black ink. It goes on blue black (er, very dark blue) and dries to a sort of turquoise. Isn't blue black ink supposed to go on dark blue and dry to black or grey with a hint of blue?

[CharlieB]

IMHO Waterman Blue Black isn't really blue black ink. It goes on blue black (er, very dark blue) and dries to a sort of turquoise. Isn't blue black ink supposed to go on dark blue and dry to black or grey with a hint of blue?

 

Yes, you are correct.

[nickapos]

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Yes, you are correct.

 

I agree with the above. On the other hand I like turquoise so I like the ink even if the blue is a lot greener than I expected!

[haldane3]

So I tried both cartridge and bottled ink of BB and all of mine dry to the said teal shade. I actually emailed Glenn Marcus about it ("Glenn's Pens website") as the color of Waterman BB on his webpage is a NICE shade of deep/dark blue. He said he has had batches that dried to that color, but overall the majority are a nice dark blue as seen on his webpage.

 

So as a result, I was thinking of trying a different bottle of BB (first came from jetpens, may try a goulet bottle) to see what shade I get then...

[andru]

I posted an experiment in one of the WBB ink review threads a couple years ago, with a photo showing how the ink fades from deep blue-black to the teal colour in a few minutes in the local tapwater, so IMO the ink is just a very unstable formulation. Unfortunately the photo link is no longer available, and results may vary with water quality...