colors of the lady patricia?

[penmanila]

does anyone have a guide to (or even an old advertisement featuring) all the colors of the lady patricia? which colors were considered the most desirable? thanks!

[sumgaikid]

The colors the Lady Patricia had were for the most part the same colors on the Patrician--

turquoise(gold & blue),nacre(black & pearl),onyx,jade green. Black and moss agate were

two colors omitted from the Lady Patricia palette. OTOH,Persian--a creamy color with red,

green and brown swirls in it and a fancy capband--was part of the Lady Patricia line and is

sometimes found on Waterman 94's. Persian is one of those colors that is a rare find and

even rarer if it isn't discolored.

 

John

[AllWriteNow]

John

I have a Moss Agate lady Patrician???

They also came in Ink-Vue versions and Sterling Silver

If no one else posts one first I have an ad that shows all the colors.

I'll scan it and post it asap.

My desktop computer is a bit under the weather just now.

Just checked the ad...

Onyx, Persian, JET Black, Sterling Silver, Moss Agate, Turquoise & Nacre

Interesting no Jade?

 

www.pencollectorsofamerica.com Reference Library has a 1936 Waterman's catalog..it shows Onyx, Persian, Jet, Moss Agate

Additionally it has the Ink Vue style in Sunset (red), Mist(green/gray) and Black Lace

 

The PCA Reference Library is a terrific source of information.

 

Steve

Edited March 30, 2009 by luckygrandson

[david i]

SNIP...Black and moss agate were

two colors omitted from the Lady Patricia palette. SNIP

John

 

Oh really???

 

http://removed.xyz/websitesalespics/pen1391lg.jpg

 

And I have seen black, too.

 

OTOH,Persian--a creamy color with red,

green and brown swirls in it and a fancy capband--was part of the Lady Patricia line and is

sometimes found on Waterman 94's. Persian is one of those colors that is a rare find and

even rarer if it isn't discolored.

 

They are nice mint stickered too

 

http://removed.xyz/penteech/watermanladypatriciapersianmint850b.jpg

 

 

Of course there is something to be said for Turquoise.

 

http://removed.xyz/penteech/watermanladypatriciaturquoiseset850b.jpg

 

And then of course there are the Ink-Vue Lady Pat colors.

 

Fun subject

 

-david

[david i]

John

I have a Moss Agate lady Patrician???

They also came in Ink-Vue versions and Sterling Silver

If no one else posts one first I have an ad that shows all the colors.

I'll scan it and post it asap.

My desktop computer is a bit under the weather just now.

 

Steve

 

Just checked the ad...

Onyx, Persian, JET Black, Sterling Silver, Moss Agate, Turquoise & Nacre

Interesting no Jade?

 

Ads often are but snippets.

 

regards

 

David

Edited March 30, 2009 by david i

[penmanila]

thanks, folks. the reason i'm asking is that i'm in ho chi minh city right now and am looking at a lady patricia whose barrel is almost translucent white, hardly a bit of discoloration, with white gold trim. have never seen anything like it. the only downside is what appears to be a crack in the cap that i hope can be mended by ron zorn's skills, if i decide to get this pen. i have a few hours left here to make up my mind. i'm wondering if this is the "nacre" version mentioned by steve above?

[sumgaikid]

John

I have a Moss Agate lady Patrician???

They also came in Ink-Vue versions and Sterling Silver

If no one else posts one first I have an ad that shows all the colors.

I'll scan it and post it asap.

My desktop computer is a bit under the weather just now.

 

Steve

 

Just checked the ad...

Onyx, Persian, JET Black, Sterling Silver, Moss Agate, Turquoise & Nacre

Interesting no Jade?

 

Steve,

 

You're right about the moss agate and black and ink-vue versions(this one with a

see-through red "ink window" pertinent to only the LP)..........my 1/2 brain was only

1/2 working.........

 

John

 

[david i]

thanks, folks. the reason i'm asking is that i'm in ho chi minh city right now and am looking at a lady patricia whose barrel is almost translucent white, hardly a bit of discoloration, with white gold trim. have never seen anything like it. the only downside is what appears to be a crack in the cap that i hope can be mended by ron zorn's skills, if i decide to get this pen. i have a few hours left here to make up my mind. i'm wondering if this is the "nacre" version mentioned by steve above?

 

Nacre is black/pearl (not unlike a Sheaffer).

 

Lady Pat is not an area of high focus for me, though I own or have owned a bunch, but translucent white sounds surprising. There are later Lady Pat pens in "Ink Vue" style in medium gray with translucent middle area and with white trim, but not sure that is what you describe. There might be Canadian/English pens not of typical color, but again I am uncertain. Coud your pen be faded?

 

-d

[sumgaikid]

thanks, folks. the reason i'm asking is that i'm in ho chi minh city right now and am looking at a lady patricia whose barrel is almost translucent white, hardly a bit of discoloration, with white gold trim. have never seen anything like it. the only downside is what appears to be a crack in the cap that i hope can be mended by ron zorn's skills, if i decide to get this pen. i have a few hours left here to make up my mind. i'm wondering if this is the "nacre" version mentioned by steve above?

 

If it has those red and green swirls in it(see David i's discolored version above),it's likely that it's

Persian. Nacre is a black and pearl(which in many cases the pearl has yellowed).

 

John

 

[AllWriteNow]

David

Nice Turquoise

Probably the ONLY pen I regret letting go : ((

 

Steve

[penmanila]

hmmm, the mystery deepens. fading is certainly possible, as the cap of the pen seemed much darker than the barrel. will pay the pen (and the rest of the mother lode--a heap of vintage pens in a shop in saigon's antiques row) later today, and will try to haggle the price down to a point where it'll be worth buying a nice pen with a cracked cap.

 

 

thanks, folks. the reason i'm asking is that i'm in ho chi minh city right now and am looking at a lady patricia whose barrel is almost translucent white, hardly a bit of discoloration, with white gold trim. have never seen anything like it. the only downside is what appears to be a crack in the cap that i hope can be mended by ron zorn's skills, if i decide to get this pen. i have a few hours left here to make up my mind. i'm wondering if this is the "nacre" version mentioned by steve above?

 

Nacre is black/pearl (not unlike a Sheaffer).

 

Lady Pat is not an area of high focus for me, though I own or have owned a bunch, but translucent white sounds surprising. There are later Lady Pat pens in "Ink Vue" style in medium gray with translucent middle area and with white trim, but not sure that is what you describe. There might be Canadian/English pens not of typical color, but again I am uncertain. Coud your pen be faded?

 

-d

 

[gregamckinney]

My guess is that the "almost translucent white" Lady Patricia might be the (usually) Canadian version of Persian that is mostly cream and blue.

 

See the pen and pencil on the far right of this picture:

http://gergyor.com/images/persians.jpg

 

Since I had it handy, here is a pic of many of the Lady Patricia colors:

http://gergyor.com/images/waterman_ladypatricias.jpg

 

Regards, greg

 

 

[david i]

great shot!

 

-d

[penmanila]

oh, you're right! i've yet to go back to it this afternoon, but i'm almost certain it's that one! thanks! would that pen be uncommon by any measure?

[david i]

oh, you're right! i've yet to go back to it this afternoon, but i'm almost certain it's that one! thanks! would that pen be uncommon by any measure?

 

Not a common color, but commonly found pretty well wrecked, leaving it less common when uncommonly found clean.

 

-d

[sumgaikid]

oh, you're right! i've yet to go back to it this afternoon, but i'm almost certain it's that one! thanks! would that pen be uncommon by any measure?

 

Not a common color, but commonly found pretty well wrecked, leaving it less common when uncommonly found clean.

 

-d

 

Say that ten times fast............. :roflmho:

 

John

 

[AllWriteNow]

oh, you're right! i've yet to go back to it this afternoon, but i'm almost certain it's that one! thanks! would that pen be uncommon by any measure?

 

Not a common color, but commonly found pretty well wrecked, leaving it less common when uncommonly found clean.

 

-d

 

Say that ten times fast............. :roflmho:

 

John

 

It was hard to read one time slowly

 

Steve

[gregamckinney]

The colors the Lady Patricia had were for the most part the same colors on the Patrician--

turquoise(gold & blue),nacre(black & pearl),onyx,jade green. Black and moss agate were

two colors omitted from the Lady Patricia palette. OTOH,Persian--a creamy color with red,

green and brown swirls in it and a fancy capband--was part of the Lady Patricia line and is

sometimes found on Waterman 94's. Persian is one of those colors that is a rare find and

even rarer if it isn't discolored.

 

John

 

The Persian pen with the different cap band (pierced diamond shapes) is the 52V. The Persian Lady Patricia has the same style trim as the other Lady Pat colors.

 

greg

[sumgaikid]

The colors the Lady Patricia had were for the most part the same colors on the Patrician--

turquoise(gold & blue),nacre(black & pearl),onyx,jade green. Black and moss agate were

two colors omitted from the Lady Patricia palette. OTOH,Persian--a creamy color with red,

green and brown swirls in it and a fancy capband--was part of the Lady Patricia line and is

sometimes found on Waterman 94's. Persian is one of those colors that is a rare find and

even rarer if it isn't discolored.

 

John

 

The Persian pen with the different cap band (pierced diamond shapes) is the 52V. The Persian Lady Patricia has the same style trim as the other Lady Pat colors.

 

greg

 

Greg,

 

Wouldn't that be a 92V? I thought that the Waterman 52 only came in BHR.

 

John

 

[gregamckinney]

The colors the Lady Patricia had were for the most part the same colors on the Patrician--

turquoise(gold & blue),nacre(black & pearl),onyx,jade green. Black and moss agate were

two colors omitted from the Lady Patricia palette. OTOH,Persian--a creamy color with red,

green and brown swirls in it and a fancy capband--was part of the Lady Patricia line and is

sometimes found on Waterman 94's. Persian is one of those colors that is a rare find and

even rarer if it isn't discolored.

 

John

 

The Persian pen with the different cap band (pierced diamond shapes) is the 52V. The Persian Lady Patricia has the same style trim as the other Lady Pat colors.

 

greg

 

Greg,

 

Wouldn't that be a 92V? I thought that the Waterman 52 only came in BHR.

 

John

 

It is a weird one, but it is a 52V. There is also a persian 94.

Regards, greg