Waterman Lady Charlotte/Anastasia/etc Rollerball question

[Waltz For Zizi]

Does anyone have any Ideea or experience what refill can I use in these pens, or what refill can I modify/cut to lenght to fit?

I thought the D1 refill would fit, but it is longer and skinnier than the original Penta refill and even if I somehow manage to cut them (cause they are metal), will just fall.

And the small refills that I have from my Uniball 4+1 pens that I might be able to cut down in size, are thicker, and I'm not confortable jamming them inside since the nipple that holds the refill is plastic.

I might be able to grind the diameter of the refill to fit, but this seems like too much trouble.

 

Is there any other way?

[Mark from Yorkshire]

Do they not take standard waterman refills? I think Monteverde make ones the fit Waterman pens

[Waltz For Zizi]

13 hours ago, Mark from Yorkshire said:

Do they not take standard waterman refills? I think Monteverde make ones the fit Waterman pens

Not standard at all. The refills are even smaller than the small D1 refills that are found in multipens.

It's called a rollerball but the refill is a ballpoint type refill of under 60 mm in length.

Waterman does not make these refills anymore.

[Mark from Yorkshire]

1 hour ago, Waltz For Zizi said:

Not standard at all. The refills are even smaller than the small D1 refills that are found in multipens.

It's called a rollerball but the refill is a ballpoint type refill of under 60 mm in length.

Waterman does not make these refills anymore.

Thanks @Waltz For Zizi. That clears that up. It’s a bit carp that they have stopped making refills for them. There’s no reference to that online.