Pre-Permapoint Eberhard Faber???

[Nightjar]

Has anyone seen a pen like this? I can't find anything similar online. I'm guessing it might (?) be a pre-Permapoint Eberhard Faber: but it might be a later E. Faber model, or a no-name manufacturer using E. Faber nib, or a frankenpen.

 

The gilded steel nib is marked "E. FABER / BROAD / MADE IN USA". The lever (originally gilded) is marked "MADE IN USA". No markings on clip or body.

 

The cap and barrel-end decoration appears to be the same layered manufacture as Permapoint yellow ring, but it's three white rings. [This is what makes me think it's probably an E. Faber pen.] Low-set clip seems like a 30s design, or by-then-old-fashioned 40s design. Presence of both lever and window perhaps (?) suggests late 30s early 40s.

 

The section appears firmly bonded to the barrel: I tried, I tried, I tried... manufactured that way maybe, or superglued. There doesn't seem to be any sort of nipple, just the bare feed: but there must surely have been a nipple below the window. Perhaps there's a piece missing. I don't really understand it.

 

Thanks to anyone who might be able to shed some light on this pen.

 

 

 

[Estycollector]

Nice pen. This is one that is branded Permapoint, but the tapered barrel and cap are similar to yours. 

 

 

[Nightjar]

Thank you @Estycollector! You're right, the profile is somewhat similar, though not identical. It would be a nice pen if I could get it working!

[Estycollector]

12 hours ago, Nightjar said:

Thank you @Estycollector! You're right, the profile is somewhat similar, though not identical. It would be a nice pen if I could get it working!

I replaced the sac with the same as I used in restoring some pre 1955 Esterbrook pens I found. This pen seemed to be cheaply made, but the flexible gold nib is a surprisingly good writer. 

[Nightjar]

On 4/29/2025 at 12:44 PM, Estycollector said:

I replaced the sac with the same as I used in restoring some pre 1955 Esterbrook pens I found. This pen seemed to be cheaply made, but the flexible gold nib is a surprisingly good writer. 

My (initial) problem is that I can't remove section from barrel: either built that way (???) or glued VERY firmly in place with superglue or similar. It's such a shame, I don't know how to proceed: I've even considered sawing across, but of course that would be a extremely radical solution.

[Estycollector]

3 hours ago, Nightjar said:

My (initial) problem is that I can't remove section from barrel: either built that way (???) or glued VERY firmly in place with superglue or similar. It's such a shame, I don't know how to proceed: I've even considered sawing across, but of course that would be a extremely radical solution.

I'll assume you've used a combination of heat and soaking overnight. There were times when I couldn't get a ancient pen apart that I thought it may have been glued. However, using rubber gloves and wiggling, I eventually won. 

[Nightjar]

Thank you! Scared of soaking, but maybe I'll resort to that...

[Estycollector]

2 hours ago, Nightjar said:

Thank you! Scared of soaking, but maybe I'll resort to that...

I recall that using the dish washing rubber gloves provided a good grip with working the sections apart.  I used Dawn and fairly warm water for which the gloves also helped. I know this is a precarious venture, but hopefully it will work out for you. If it is glue, the warm soak won't help. At least you will know.