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I have been searching for the perfect dark red ink for over a year now. An ink without any brown/orange, purple, or pink hues just dark red. The most similar examples would be Montblanc Alfred Hitchcock and the sheen of Colorverse 86/87.  I have looked into a ton of threads on here but the majority of recommendations don't really fit what I am looking for.

 

Inks that I have tried or looked at already:

 

Montblanc Alfred Hitchcock - unobtanium

Diamine Oxblood - dries quite brown/orange

Noodler's Widowmaker - bright red

Noodler's Red Black - dries brownish

Private Reserve Black Cherry - purple

Diamine Red Dragon - too bright

 

I am definitely missing a few but that should give a general idea of what I am trying to find. I am also not against mixing inks.

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Have you tried Noodler's "Black Swans" series?  The one in "Australian Roses" has a blackish tint to it, if I remember correctly.

 

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Have you tried Noodler's "Black Swans" series?  The one in "Australian Roses" has a blackish tint to it, if I remember correctly.

 

Erick

I haven't tried it, but gave it a quick look just now on mountainofink. It's more pink/purple than red and not really what I am looking for. Thanks for the recommendation though.

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Kobe #4 Ijinkan

KWZ Red #1

 

Compromises. Because "you can't always get what you want.  But if you try sometimes, you just might find, you get what you need."

Ancient Copper

Rouge Grenat

Pure Pens Cadwaladr

 

I'm still looking, but not finding.  Can always mix in a drop of Perle Noir into a 5ml vial.

 

Add lightness and simplicate.

 

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@kiri836 -- Sounds as if you're looking for something in the line of a burgundy color, rather than a brownish red.  Don't know if it's still available, but a friend picked up a partial bottle of Campo Marzio Bordeaux a couple of years ago and it was the first dark red ink I actually liked.  

Also have a look at KWZI Maroon #2 if that's still available (it's a regular line ink, not one of the IG ones).  Diamine Merlot might be a little brown-leaning for your taste, but that may be another one to take a look at, and has the advantage of being pretty fast drying.

I don't tend to like burgundies or brownish reds, so don't have a lot of other ones to suggest.

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43 minutes ago, Karmachanic said:

Kobe #4 Ijinkan

KWZ Red #1

 

Compromises. Because "you can't always get what you want.  But if you try sometimes, you just might find, you get what you need."

Ancient Copper

Rouge Grenat

Pure Pens Cadwaladr

 

I'm still looking, but not finding.  Can always mix in a drop of Perle Noir into a 5ml vial.

 

Koke #4 Ijinkan and Pure Pens Cadwaladr are slightly too bright for me. 

 

The other three are quite close to what I want, will probably get a sample of each to try out. Thanks for the recommendations.

 

33 minutes ago, I-am-not-really-here said:

Have you bought samples of anything or relying more on how an ink looks in somebody's review? 

I have bought a few samples but I rely more on reviews as I can't buy a sample of every ink that is recommended.

 

 

7 minutes ago, inkstainedruth said:

@kiri836 -- Sounds as if you're looking for something in the line of a burgundy color, rather than a brownish red.  Don't know if it's still available, but a friend picked up a partial bottle of Campo Marzio Bordeaux a couple of years ago and it was the first dark red ink I actually liked.  

Also have a look at KWZI Maroon #2 if that's still available (it's a regular line ink, not one of the IG ones).  Diamine Merlot might be a little brown-leaning for your taste, but that may be another one to take a look at, and has the advantage of being pretty fast drying.

I don't tend to like burgundies or brownish reds, so don't have a lot of other ones to suggest.

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

 

Campo Marzio Bordeaux looks somewhat interesting but I am having trouble finding any pictures of how it looks on paper. Any chance you have any pictures?

KWZI Maroon #2 seems quite close to what I am looking for, I'll probably get a sample of it then. Diamine Merlot looks quite interesting, though not what I am looking for at the moment, it has kind of a unique color; might a get a sample of it too. Thanks for the recommendations.

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1 hour ago, kiri836 said:

Campo Marzio Bordeaux looks somewhat interesting but I am having trouble finding any pictures of how it looks on paper. Any chance you have any pictures?

Sorry, I don't.  I did manage to find the test I did of the ink a few years ago when I got it.  It's on not terribly good paper (one of those 6"x9" top spiral bound sketchpads that you can get at Barnes & Noble.  I can try to get a photo of it when the lighting is better, but at the moment it's around 4 PM EST, and raining, so really gloomy, so not going to be able to get a good photo even with the 3-way LED bulb in the living room floor lamp.

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2 hours ago, Lithium466 said:

Büroservice Bergmann rotflissende / red iron gall

Maybe Platinum Cassis black too?

Dries a bit too black and I am quite weary of iron gall inks as I have heard bad things; other wise a very pleasant color.

 

2 hours ago, dftr said:

Perhaps wearingeul human condition?  May need to add a drop of black ink?  

Woah, this is pretty close. Might need that drop of black ink based on how it looks irl. I am definitely going to get a sample of this to try out. Thanks for recommendation.

 

2 hours ago, inkstainedruth said:

Sorry, I don't.  I did manage to find the test I did of the ink a few years ago when I got it.  It's on not terribly good paper (one of those 6"x9" top spiral bound sketchpads that you can get at Barnes & Noble.  I can try to get a photo of it when the lighting is better, but at the moment it's around 4 PM EST, and raining, so really gloomy, so not going to be able to get a good photo even with the 3-way LED bulb in the living room floor lamp.

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

It's fine no need, don't want to trouble you. I'll search around more, I am sure that there is a picture of it somewhere.

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23 minutes ago, kiri836 said:

Dries a bit too black and I am quite weary of iron gall inks as I have heard bad things; other wise a very pleasant color.

Don't be weary of IG ;)

 

What about Diamine Burgundy Royale? I found all the 150th anniversary inks I tried very pleasant in term of behaviour.

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2 hours ago, Lithium466 said:

Don't be weary of IG ;)

 

What about Diamine Burgundy Royale? I found all the 150th anniversary inks I tried very pleasant in term of behaviour.

 

1 hour ago, Doc Dan said:

What about Diamine Burgundy Rose or Burgundy Royale?

I have a sample of Diamine Burgundy Royale as that was heavily recommended on other threads for dark red inks. Though it is somewhat of a dark red, it very clearly has a slight purplish/brownish(based on the paper used) hue. 

 

Diamine Burgundy Rose I think was compared to Montblanc Alfred Hitchcock in a thread and is said to be an alternative for it. But, I think it's a limited edition ink or something as I could not find a place selling a sample of it; so I had to rely on reviews and its a bit to bright for me.

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3 minutes ago, dftr said:

One more which may be close is montegrappa Gryffindor Red

I don't think it is limited edition?  

https://fountainpenpharmacist.com/blog/ink-review-622-montegrappa-harry-potter-gryffindor-red

Yeah, seems like you can buy it. From what I can see on the writing sample it looks good, but I think the pen that they used was quite wet. You can see in the first image that it almost matches the Diamine Burgundy Royale which is too bright for me. I would get a sample of this if could but a quick glance at a few websites gets me no hits. I'll look into it more tomorrow. Thanks for the recommendation.

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I mostly do waterproof inks so my suggestion will not be helpful. De atramentis Document/ Artist dark red might fit the bill. I love the color of Noodlers Tsvetayeva, but unfortunately the dry times are very long.

None of them sheen....

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12 hours ago, kiri836 said:

I have been searching for the perfect dark red ink for over a year now. An ink without any brown/orange, purple, or pink hues just dark red. The most similar examples would be Montblanc Alfred Hitchcock and the sheen of Colorverse 86/87.  I have looked into a ton of threads on here but the majority of recommendations don't really fit what I am looking for.

 

Inks that I have tried or looked at already:

 

Montblanc Alfred Hitchcock - unobtanium

Diamine Oxblood - dries quite brown/orange

Noodler's Widowmaker - bright red

Noodler's Red Black - dries brownish

Private Reserve Black Cherry - purple

Diamine Red Dragon - too bright

 

I am definitely missing a few but that should give a general idea of what I am trying to find. I am also not against mixing inks.


I would give a look to MD's Dark Red. If I didn't already have the Teranishi Modern Red, this is the one I'd probably get. It's made by the mysterious Austrian ink company for MD (Midori/Traveller's Notebook company)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYdqJGSg0h4

 

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Also, if you are not against mixing, you might try Kuretake's Drop of Shadow mixing ink with a red of your choice.

 

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