Differences in Waterman Expert Editions

[ZeroDukE]

[ZeroDukE]

[Penguincollector]

  Thank you for taking the time to  put together this post, @zeroduke! I appreciate it.

 

  The nib on the Mk I is extremely attractive. The semi keyhole vent reminds me of an Esterbrook dip nib. I prefer the two thin cap rings, but I like that the branding is less conspicuous on the Mk III. 

[manolo]

In my experience, top of the cap for the most recent Experts is black plastic, not that metal disc you show in your photo.

 

I haven't tried the Mk I nib. Is it in any way better than the others?

[TSherbs]

1 hour ago, manolo said:

In my experience, top of the cap for the most recent Experts is black plastic, not that metal disc you show in your photo.

 

I haven't tried the Mk I nib. Is it in any way better than the others?

 

My MkIII is exactly the same as the MKIII in these pics...except for the finial. As you note, mine is a black plastic with a "W" embossed on it, similar to the MkI in these pics. 

 

@zeroduke You sure all of your finial pics are labelled correctly?

[ZeroDukE]

3 hours ago, TSherbs said:

 

@zeroduke You sure all of your finial pics are labelled correctly?

 

Absolutely.

[TSherbs]

roger

 

then manolo is right: there is more than one version of the MkIII

[ZeroDukE]

roger.

Then I was right, my pictures were labelled correctly.

[TSherbs]

??

[Misfit]

I have an Expert 3 in dark red. It is a gorgeous pen.

[ZeroDukE]

16 hours ago, Misfit said:

I have an Expert 3 in dark red. It is a gorgeous pen.

 

Very nice colour, indeed.

[Misfit]

You have to see it in person to appreciate it. But that is true about many pens. 

[Dt123]

Thanks for the post. I was just wondering this very question.

 

What's the feedback like on the V3 nib? And was it perfect right outta the box? Recently saw an interesting video where someone had issues with the V3 nibs QC.

[WriteAway]

Here’s a link to helpful confirmation of the Expert versions from Teri at Peyton Street Pens:

https://www.peytonstreetpens.com/guide-to-our-waterman-identifier/

[ProfessorLake]

On 5/25/2023 at 11:32 AM, TSherbs said:

 

My MkIII is exactly the same as the MKIII in these pics...except for the finial. As you note, mine is a black plastic with a "W" embossed on it, similar to the MkI in these pics. 

 

@zeroduke You sure all of your finial pics are labelled correctly?

That's the finial on mine as well, and is the finial shown on the Waterman site: https://www.waterman.com/expert-pens.html.

 

[Misfit]

Mine v3 was fine from the start. I got a M nib. 

[TSherbs]

On 1/8/2024 at 12:24 PM, ProfessorLake said:

That's the finial on mine as well, and is the finial shown on the Waterman site: https://www.waterman.com/expert-pens.html.

 

 

This link gives a few glimpses of the finials, but the pens are not listed as I, II, or III. I presume that we can assume that these are all III's, but neither of the links posted here over the last week really settle this question (about the identification from the look of the finial). 

[ZeroDukE]

[Janeite]

I know there is supposed to be a significant difference in weight between the I and the II (plastic vs. brass?), but can anyone speak to other differences between the pens (and including differences with III, too)?  The quality of the nibs, the balance of the pens, the diameter of the grips, reliability as a pen, etc?

[davisgt]

My very first fountain pen was a Waterman Expert II decades ago. I loved the pen then, and it is still one of my favorites.  Excellent nib, nice heft, fits perfectly in my hand, and it is still writing well after all these years. I eventually ended up with four of them, so that should tell you something.