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"Super Grip" type has been developed in PEEK material (research log 5/24/23)


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"Super Grip" type has been developed in PEEK material

 

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54 individual micro "protrusions" are precision-machined individually.

these bulges fits between finger print ridges, enhancing anti-slip properties.

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difference boundary length was tried for choosing best overall aesthetics.

in the end i chose the one in the last picture.

it seems quite adequate, not too excessive.

 

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in terms of performance,

indeed, the name "Super Grip" matches the actual performance.

it is nearly impossible to lose grip of it, especially when some force is applied between the three gripping fingers.

it is very grippy indeed.

 

 

 

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These type of grips are actually a good idea and are seen on multiple vintage eyedropper pens. Just wondering why they disappeared in the early years altogether. Do you know what they were called historically?

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Middle large ring in the following waterman is where the eyedropper barrel opens up. they may have just put in a wider ring to identify that. on the other pens barrel and section opens up in the middle of the grip section.

 

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Do you know what these kind of grips were called historically.

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Interesting.  But the question I have is this: how easy is it to wipe down a section like this after filling a pen?  I ask because wiping excess ink off the TWSBI 580-ALR is a major PITA (the ridges collect ink in between them).

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4 hours ago, inkstainedruth said:

Interesting.  But the question I have is this: how easy is it to wipe down a section like this after filling a pen?  I ask because wiping excess ink off the TWSBI 580-ALR is a major PITA (the ridges collect ink in between them).

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

 

I have a similar grip on a Gravatas with a similar ink ridge problem.

I recently stopped filling via nibs unless I absolutely have to.  Pelikans and Auroras I unscrew the nib and fill with a syringe.

I fill converters either directly from the bottle or with a syringe like a cartridge.

 

It looks like the vintage pens may have their ridges far enough apart not to pose a significant ink retention removal problem.  🤔

 

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Now that I think about it, vintage pens lost their ridges around the time of moving from eyedroppers to self-fillers. 

Eyedroppers wouldn't have had a problem with these as they are filled by unscrewing the section. 

This may have been the reason for not having ridges on lever fillers. 

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Very interesting post @fplover5; indeed good arguments @shalitha33, @inkstainedruth and @USG!

 

Maybe one more aspect to think about: by watching myself and by watching others during writing, I experienced a loss of elegant and relaxed lines and curves and therefore a loss in overall aesthetic and readability of handwritten in cases when the pen was held with a static grip. Yes, it is not only about not slipping, it is also about forces of the fingers around the grip section. Moving the grip position a bit up and down along the grip section during writing seems to have more advantages than disadvantages.

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I personally prefer a smooth tacky grip (Parker 51 lucite material, ebonite) to a grip with ridges/rough surface because during writing I find I occasionally relax my grip, allow the pen to change position fractionally, and re-grip and continue writing. A rough surface hiders this.

Also, as mentioned in previous posts there is significant ink retention on the grip section of a rough grip when filling the pen.

However, this would be a good option for a ballpoint.

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10 hours ago, Mangrove Jack said:

I personally prefer a smooth tacky grip (Parker 51 lucite material, ebonite) to a grip with ridges/rough surface because during writing I find I occasionally relax my grip, allow the pen to change position fractionally, and re-grip and continue writing. A rough surface hiders this.

Also, as mentioned in previous posts there is significant ink retention on the grip section of a rough grip when filling the pen.

However, this would be a good option for a ballpoint.

 

I completely agree with this. Most ridges and rough grips invariably end up being irritants for the fingers, and usually it happens within a few seconds to minutes of using the pen. I wish pen makers just selected materials adequately and refrained from this practice.

 

OP, your pens otherwise look nice. 

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I prefer a smooth section. Sections with ridges or other deformities aren't that bothersome on my thumb and index finger because they engage the section with the fingertip pads, but my middle finger goes under the section and engages the section with the side of the finger. I find that ridges, etc. really get to bothering my middle finger if I'm writing with such a pen for a long time. YMMV.

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On 5/25/2023 at 6:14 AM, shalitha33 said:

These type of grips are actually a good idea and are seen on multiple vintage eyedropper pens. Just wondering why they disappeared in the early years altogether. Do you know what they were called historically?

large.IMG_20230525_085230.jpg.9d44c7a680c5db7e1464bef754f08650.jpg

 

Middle large ring in the following waterman is where the eyedropper barrel opens up. they may have just put in a wider ring to identify that. on the other pens barrel and section opens up in the middle of the grip section.

 

large.IMG_20230525_084839.jpg.05e96005a5e9d9e97c231f9e50317d07.jpg

 

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Do you know what these kind of grips were called historically.

 

oh i didn't know these existed... cool!

as for the name i have no idea :)

 

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On 5/25/2023 at 11:26 AM, inkstainedruth said:

Interesting.  But the question I have is this: how easy is it to wipe down a section like this after filling a pen?  I ask because wiping excess ink off the TWSBI 580-ALR is a major PITA (the ridges collect ink in between them).

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

 

maybe use water tissue (wet type) to clean up the mess?

 

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On 5/25/2023 at 3:49 PM, InesF said:

Very interesting post @fplover5; indeed good arguments @shalitha33, @inkstainedruth and @USG!

 

Maybe one more aspect to think about: by watching myself and by watching others during writing, I experienced a loss of elegant and relaxed lines and curves and therefore a loss in overall aesthetic and readability of handwritten in cases when the pen was held with a static grip. Yes, it is not only about not slipping, it is also about forces of the fingers around the grip section. Moving the grip position a bit up and down along the grip section during writing seems to have more advantages than disadvantages.

 

that makes sense.

but some of my clients actually wanted extra grip

because their fingers were sweaty/oily and kept on slipping.

 

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On 5/31/2023 at 10:29 PM, Ink Stained Wretch said:

I prefer a smooth section. Sections with ridges or other deformities aren't that bothersome on my thumb and index finger because they engage the section with the fingertip pads, but my middle finger goes under the section and engages the section with the side of the finger. I find that ridges, etc. really get to bothering my middle finger if I'm writing with such a pen for a long time. YMMV.

 

i see what your saying about the middle finger hurting.

in the photo it shows a sharp profile,

however, i've modified it to non-sharp profile.

the above picture shows the initial prototype of this design,

in the actual production, i changed it.

 

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