Esterbrook TJ, PJ pencils - barrel size?

[BrassRatt]

I recently saw for sale some Esterbrook "J" family mechanical pencils.  The model names were given as "PJ" for one and  "TJ" for another.  The plastic appears like the pretty "J" fountain pens.  I am aware that they take different lead  sizes. 

 

My question:  do the barrels of these pencils have the same diameter/thickness?  Do they match the diameter/thickness of the "J" fountain pen, or of the "SJ"/"LJ" pens, or are they some other size(s)? 

 

If there's a reference for Esterbrook J-family dimensions, kindly point me at it. 

Thanks.

 

[gweimer1]

Brian Anderson's Esterbrook Reference page

[gweimer1]

As far as I know, pencils were a single size within the J models.

[FarmBoy]

2 hours ago, gweimer1 said:

As far as I know, pencils were a single size within the J models.

But came in Thin (0.036) and Thick (0.046) leads

[gweimer1]

1 minute ago, FarmBoy said:

But came in Thin (0.036) and Thick (0.046) leads

 

Yep, and the one thing I like about Esterbrook was that they stamped the lead size on the mechanism under the cap so you didn't have to guess.

[FarmBoy]

23 hours ago, gweimer1 said:

 

Yep, and the one thing I like about Esterbrook was that they stamped the lead size on the mechanism under the cap so you didn't have to guess.

You also like that you can have both and not have a duplicate…

[BrassRatt]

On 3/31/2023 at 5:23 AM, gweimer1 said:

Brian Anderson's Esterbrook Reference page

Thank you!  

I learned there that the PJ and TJ have the same barrel dimensions.

But that site does not seem to list dimensions for the pencils, or for the pens either.  

Does anyone have size information available for those pencils?

Thanks again!