ID help required please - parker 51 type ball point?

[sherbie]

Folks, i’ve had the ball point now for 5 years, and I’m still no closer to a definite ID !

it looks like a Parker 51 special ball point, as has a shiny lustraloy cap, but has a grey jewel, not a black one. Clip length is 44mm, and cap is marked “Parker, parker halo sign, made in USA” - so after 1958

 

cap is the press down type - ie the whole cap moved down to activate the refill. Cap has brass threads inside 

 

I dont recognise the colour though - I’ve shown it next to nassau green DJ and forest green SJ fountain pens for a comparison 

 

any ideas, on what it is, and what the colour is, much appreciated

 

cheers paul

[bsenn]

VIP perhaps. See https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/368727-parker-51-jotter/#comment-4577690

 

[baz666]

It looks like a Parker 51 Special ball pen to me.
I had a mint trio set in Teal, a while back.
The ball pen was identical to yours, including the P61 style clip and a grey jewel.
I can't help with the colour of yours, but be aware, any colour Parker 61 barrel will fit this cap.

 

 

 

[sherbie]

Thanks all. Will do some more digging - especially down the Parker VIP rabbit hole 

 

had never heard of the VIP before

[sherbie]

Folks

 

thanks to your assistance and assistance from folks over at the fountainpennoard, can now report that i have a green Parker VIP ball point from around 1959

 

features of a VIP are a weird mixture of parts “stolen” from other parker models - namely 

 

1) cap body similar to the finish of a Parker 51 Special however…

2) it sports a Parker 61 Clip, and a grey jewel, the same jewel diameter size as a jewel on a P61 fountain pen

3) cap is stamped with the  “ parker halo/arrow logo”  immediately left of “PARKER” with “made in USA” on the reverse

4) male threads are on plastic barrel

 

 

For more information,  please see http://fountainpenboard.com/forum/index.php?/topic/2873-parker-vip/?p=44277

 

The above link also contain this 1959 Xmas Canadian advert, showing the sterling silver Parker VIP

 

 

 

Cheers paul

 

[Mark from Yorkshire]

I was going to say possibly a Parker 15 and refer you here https://parkerpens.net/index.shtml

 

best regards

 

mark