Büroservice Bergmann Blaufliessende Eisengallustinte (blue flowing iron gall)

[yazeh]

The name is a mouthful. 
I discovered this ink thanks @christof. 

Another good ink for Iron gall ink lovers. 
They are made in Germany and exclusively sold by the maker Thomas Bergmann.  
https://www.kalligraphie-shop.com/ep...roducts/32000T
They come in 2 colours: red and blue in De Atramentis type bottles. 


This is an almost black ink, in the true IG sense. If you’ve written with dip pen IG inks (Like Bach’s which turns into a glossy black), this one comes close, depending on the amount of ink concentration. 
Here is a comparaison with two other famous IGs. 



It has an interesting chroma


While I enjoyed using it, I prefer the Red to this. Mostly because it has not the waterproofness of Essri (and I don't mean LizEf's endearing Snek . If you’re looking for a perfect waterproof ink, go for the big three Essri, Akkerman IG, or Diamine Registrars ( I haven’t tried KWZ blue black/ and Hero 232, so I can't comment on that). 

I rubbed the sample text (on the cheap paper), with a wet Q-tip. This was after 24 hours. Essri didn't budge. The blue component of Bergmann ink smudged. I also did the Q-tip test on a week old text on Tomoe River paper, the blue component smudged. 

Writing samples:

TR 68gr

Midori

Rhodia

 

Apica

 

 This I did with reverse medium Jinhao, which is close to an Ef, I hope (Paper is Rhodia)

Field Notes (Not for Fps but the ink behaved flawlessly)

This was done on atrocious, cheap, very thin, absorbent paper. Ink turned instantly black.

While there seems to be ghosting and bleed through, it doesn't look as bad as the scan

Here is a little fun sketch I did for Inktober on a Fabiano sketch pad: The background is all done with the IG ink. 

• Pens used: : Jinhao 450 (Medium/fude) /Jinhao X159 – F / Conway Stewart 330/ Pilot Kakuna
• Shading: Yes
• Ghosting: Only on cheap paper. It didn't ghost on Field Notes, an unfriendly FP paper.
• Bleed through: No
• Flow Rate: Wet
• Lubrication: Quite good for an IG
• Nib Dry-out: On the badly sealed X159 yes. 
• Start-up: On the badly sealed X159 yes. 
• Saturation: Nicely saturated… 
• Shading Potential: The ink turn almost black. Butshades 
• Sheen: None
• Spread / Feathering / Woolly Line: Not noticed
• Nib Creep / “Crud”: No
• Staining (pen): No,
• Clogging: Nope. 
• Water resistance: Good. But not as good as Essri. 
• Availability: 1 oz/ 30 ml bottles

Comments appreciated!

[LizEF]

Still the perfect color.  Thanks, @yazeh!  Essri to the armadillo: "Want to be friendth?"

[lapis]

Thanks again for a review of this new brand. I love it (this "blue") ! Maybe even more than the red.

 

ACHTUNG! ==> Completely apart from that, all other lovers of this should copy this review (and I don't mean just the URL) in the hope that it (the whole review) doesn't  disappear like the red one did....

 

Thanks for all of your efforts here, yazeh. Looking forward to your new/repeat posting of the red ink.

[yazeh]

2 minutes ago, LizEF said:

Still the perfect color.  Thanks, @yazeh!  Essri to the armadillo: "Want to be friendth?"

Yeth! 

1 minute ago, lapis said:

Thanks again for a review of this new brand. I love it (this "blue") ! Maybe even more than the red.

There's something about it that's really endearing!

1 minute ago, lapis said:

 

Completely apart from that, all othe lovers of this should coppy this review (and >i don't mean just the URL) in the hope that it (the whole review) doesn't again disappear like the red one did...)

Thanks for all of your efforts here, Yazeh. Looking forwqard to your new posting of othe old red

The red one is done too! Hopefully it won't crash the server like someone suggested, IG ink and all

 

[namrehsnoom]

Thanks @yazeh - very nice presentation of this ink. I like what I see: a nice midnight blue. Goes onto the wish list, together with its red companion. Love the drawing you did with this ink - and now I’m also curious about the grey in this sketch (with it’s green and purple undertones) - only one I’ve seen before with these nuances is Diamine Earl Grey. Which one is this?

[yazeh]

4 minutes ago, namrehsnoom said:

Thanks @yazeh - very nice presentation of this ink. I like what I see: a nice midnight blue. Goes onto the wish list, together with its red companion.

Thank you!

4 minutes ago, namrehsnoom said:

 

 

Love the drawing you did with this ink - and now I’m also curious about the grey in this sketch (with it’s green and purple undertones) - only one I’ve seen before with these nuances is Diamine Earl Grey. Which one is this?

I use a silver/ gold art pen for the outershell of the creature . 

However the ink with he green/grey undertones I believe is a diluted, Kala Scapolite. A dark grey green ink. I'll be soon posting a review

[inkstainedruth]

Thanks for the review of this ink, yazeh!

Interesting color -- I like that it doesn't oxidize alway from the dark blue the way a lot of "traditional" IG inks do (I keep looking at trying ESSRI, but can't imagine going through an entire large bottle of it without it going bad on me, even if it was the ONLY ink I used; and I DID have a bottle of Akkerman IJzer-Galnoten go bad because I couldn't use it up fast enough -- and it was only 60 ml ).  While not as water resistant as some, I like the fast that this ink doesn't seem to have changed color much.  

It would be interesting to see someone do a lightfastness test on it (which is a problem with a lot of IG inks, unfortunately).  And I'm looking forward to seeing the review of the red (I have yet to find a red IG ink that I like -- they tend to oxidize more to brown/rust-colored).

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[yazeh]

3 minutes ago, inkstainedruth said:

Thanks for the review of this ink, yazeh!

Most welcome!

3 minutes ago, inkstainedruth said:

Interesting color -- I like that it doesn't oxidize alway from the dark blue the way a lot of "traditional" IG inks do (I keep looking at trying ESSRI, but can't imagine going through an entire large bottle of it without it going bad on me, even if it was the ONLY ink I used; and I DID have a bottle of Akkerman IJzer-Galnoten go bad because I couldn't use it up fast enough -- and it was only 60 ml ).  While not as water resistant as some, I like the fast that this ink doesn't seem to have changed color much.  

Actually depending the paper/nib it can changed to black immediately. The more absorbent the paper, the more concentred the ink, the ink can turn into black. For ex. if you use a fude nib, as it spreads the ink thinly, it'll retain the blue black quality.

3 minutes ago, inkstainedruth said:

It would be interesting to see someone do a lightfastness test on it (which is a problem with a lot of IG inks, unfortunately).  And I'm looking forward to seeing the review of the red (I have yet to find a red IG ink that I like -- they tend to oxidize more to brown/rust-colored).

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

The red review is reposted: 

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/369318-büroservice-bergmann-rotfliessende-eisengallustinte-red-flowing-iron-gall/

 

[inkstainedruth]

2 minutes ago, yazeh said:

Most welcome!

Actually depending the paper/nib it can changed to black immediately. The more absorbent the paper, the more concentred the ink, the ink can turn into black. For ex. if you use a fude nib, as it spreads the ink thinly, it'll retain the blue black quality.

Good to know.  And yes, I JUST saw the review of the red ink.

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth