CROSS TOWNSEND COLORS

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Hi all.  I know there have been posts about Townsend colors on here before, and I have looked at them to help me in my collecting. But I am stuck and need some help. 

 I have three questions: 1. is there a difference between Townsend Silver Lacquer and Quicksilver I have included a photo of each from an Ebay merchant who had both colors lister- -- - 2. Is there a difference between  Townsend Grey Lacquer and Titanium?  I have attached a photo of my Titanium Townsends and my Quicksilver (I think?)

And #3.  how about the greens for the Townsends? Below is what I have for available green Townsend models - confusing to say the least.  I think I added a green pen today that I didn't have, but its always a gamble.  

 

Thanks in advance for your help.  Mark 

 

	GREEN	GREEN PROTOTYPE BP
516/616	GREEN	MARBLED GREEN LACQUER (SOMETIMES 616) GOLD PLATED MED PT
77016	GREEN	Marble Green Lacquer Fountain Pen 77016
612	GREEN	GREEN MARBLED LACQUER W/22K GOLD TRIM BALLPOINT PEN #612
536	GREEN	GREEN CURLLED BLACK TRIM
AT0046-63	GREEN	FS - MATTE GREEN PVD MICRO CURL
676	GREEN	JADE (I found a used rollerball that is due this week)
585 M	GREEN	GREEN TRANSLUCENT LACQUER FOUNTAIN PEN B
696-5	GREEN	TRANSLUCENT GREEN LACQUER GOLD TRIM
AT0042DC-11	GREEN	TRANSLUCENT GREEN LACQUER CHROME
692-14	GREEN	EMERALD GREEN AND SIVER TUXEDO BP Emerald 692-14
696-14	GREEN	EMERALD LACQUER BP (I think I bought a RB today)
696-6	GREEN	MALACHITE LACQUER Malachite lacquer (NEVER seen one)

 

Left to right 1.EMERALD GREEN AND SIVER TUXEDO BP Emerald 692-14 2. It was listed as a prototype? 3. 696-14GREENEMERALD LACQUER BP

4. Micro Curl FB 5. Translucent Green/gold trim 6. Marbled Green/gold trim 

 

 

[bbref36]

I found some information that is helpful but doesn't really answer my questions.  

This is from a FPN post by Townsend expert MrThoth

 

link to org. post https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/338381-cross-townsend-photo-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4122042

 

 

Sure, I can do that.  If I weren't such a lazy (bleep) I'd already have a website up that I could point you to, but instead you'll have to settle for this plain ol' list for now.  This list is current through October 2018, and includes as its latest releases the 2019 Year of the Pig pen and the three Scuderia Ferrari pens. I own all of these pens except for the AT0047-22 Townsend Tango and one mentioned at the end of the list. The hunt continues, but with little luck these days.

 

AT0046-1 — Platinum Plated

AT0046-3 — Titanium Herringbone

AT0046-4 — Black Lacquer with Rhodium Appointments

AT0046-5 — Citrine

AT0046-6 — Garnet

AT0046-7 — Tango Black

AT0046-8 — Tango Slate

AT0046-30 — Black Smooth Touch

AT0046-42 — Stylus 23K Gold Plate

AT0046-43 — Stylus Brushed Platinum Plate

AT0046-45 — 2017 Year of the Rooster

AT0046-54 — 2018 Year of the Dog

AT0046-55 — 2019 Year of the Pig

AT0046B-29 — 20th Anniversary Platinum Plated (aka Brushed Platinum Plate)

AT0046B-32 — 20th Anniversary 23K Heavy Gold Plate (aka Brushed Gold Plate)

AT0046CB-37 — Japanese Cherry Blossom 23K Heavy Gold Plate

AT0046CB-38 — Japanese Cherry Blossom Brushed Platinum Plate

AT0046D-39 — Star Wars C-3PO

AT0046D-40 — Star Wars Darth Vader

AT0046D-41 — Star Wars Stormtrooper

AT0046D-47 — Star Wars Chewbacca

AT0046D-48 — Star Wars R2-D2

AT0046D-50 — Star Wars BB-8

AT0046D-51 — Star Wars Boba Fett

AT0046D-53 — Star Wars Han Solo

AT0047-15 — Midnight Blue

AT0047-22 — Townsend Tango

AT0047-24 — Brush Platinum

AT0047-31 — Engraved Chrome

AT0047-34 — Chrome Radial

FR0046-56 — Scuderia Ferrari Rosso Glossy Black Lacquer

FR0046-57 — Scuderia Ferrari Rosso Corsa Red Lacquer

FR0046-58 — Scuderia Ferrari Honeycomb Pattern

 

506 — Medalist

516 — Marbled Green Lacquer (sometimes 616)

536 — Lustrous Chrome

556 — Tuxedo

566 — Duet Black Gold

576 — Black Lacquer

586 — Titanium

596 — Marbled Blue Lacquer

626-1 — Cyber Blue

626-2 — Meteorite (Champagne)

626-3 — Cosmos Black

636 — Sienna Lacquer

646 — Quicksilver

656 — Sterling Silver

676 — Jade

686 — Cardinal Red Lacquer

696-1 — Quartz Blue Lacquer

696-2 — Anthracite Lacquer

696-5 — Translucent Green

696-6 — Malachite Lacquer

696-7 — Carbonite Lacquer

696-8 — Ochre Lacquer

696-13 — Ruby Lacquer

696-14 — Emerald Lacquer

706 — 10K Gold Filled/RolledGold

776 — 18K Gold Filled

796 — Lapis

 

??? — Special releases like the Concorde pens, Presidential Series, and so forth — I don’t know if these have separate SKUs or not.

 

??? — Copper Lacquer (a pen I have but can’t identify by name or SKU)

 

??? — Titanium Grey Lacquer (a pen I’ve seen pictures of online but don’t can’t identify by name or SKU)

[langere]

I'm sorry, but I am just awed by all of the Townsends you have.  Wish I could help you!

 

Erick

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2 hours ago, langere said:

I'm sorry, but I am just awed by all of the Townsends you have.  Wish I could help you!

 

Erick

Well I don't have all of those but I have quite a few of them.  A rough count shows I have 54 of the 65 that I know a SKU number. It should be noted that I count any type pen as meeting the requirement: ball point, rollerball, or fountain pen. 

I have also run into an issue of not knowing what the pen I am looking for looks like.  For example, I am not sure what some of these colors are:

1. 626-3 — Cosmos Black - NO idea what this is - could be a matte color black, if so I have it
2. AT0046-30 — Black Smooth Touch .  - it might be the rubberized surface on a townsend that i have
3. AT0047-22 — Townsend Tango -  there are other Tango's but none that I have listed as just Townsend Tango 
4. 556 — Tuxedo (I think I know what a tux is black or another color on the bottom & silver or gold on top but I don't know what it is on its own)
5. 566 — Duet Black - NO idea what this is - I have googled this several times and it does show anything specific

These are the models I don't have:

AT0046-30 — Black Smooth Touch
AT0046-43 — Stylus Brushed Platinum Plate
AT00??-?? — 2022 Year of the Tiger
AT0046B-32 — 20th Anniversary 23K Heavy Gold Plate (aka Brushed Gold Plate)
AT0046CB-38 — Japanese Cherry Blossom Brushed Platinum Plate (I understand only 40 in the world made, might not get this one, and I can live with that)
AT0047-22 — Townsend Tango
556 — Tuxedo
566 — Duet Black Gold
626-3 — Cosmos Black
696-6 — Malachite Lacquer
776 — 18K Gold Filled

 

If any one has one of these and wants to trade or sell, I would be interested.  Thanks Mark

[langere]

I see you are willing to count non-FPs to complete your collection.  In that sense, I understand that the 2022 Year of the Tiger pen does not have a fountain pen version, alas.

 

Erick

[Pan5N3]

On 8/14/2022 at 10:52 PM, bbref36 said:

I have also run into an issue of not knowing what the pen I am looking for looks like.  For example, I am not sure what some of these colors are:

1. 626-3 — Cosmos Black - NO idea what this is - could be a matte color black, if so I have it

 

The Cosmos Black is a simple matte black.  Chrome clip, ends and cap bands.  Mine is marked USA - hard to read but stamped in the usual place - opposite side of clip, just above band.   Stainless steel nib.  Pre-pandemic, I picked mine up off eBay for quite cheap.

 

 

[bbref36]

Thanks for the info, that is what I thought too.  But in looking at my boxes, I have one that is label Cosmo Black, and one that is labelled Matt - see photos.  Both have different stock numbers too.    

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So I guess i have the flat black and the cosmo.  Still a little frustrating and confusing, but again thanks for the info.  mn

[MrThoth]

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AT00??-?? — 2022 Year of the Tiger

 

While I included this in the 2018 list that you resposted here, I did it in anticipation of such a pen being produced, since Cross has produced an Asian Zodiac pen every year for a decade now. Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, Cross only produced the Year of the Tiger pen as a rollerball, and never produced any 2023 Year of the Rabbit pens at all.

The Tiger pen situation baffles me, since the rollerball section and nib section for a Townsend are identical in terms of how they screw into the barrel of the pen. All they had to do to market a Year of the Tiger FP was switch out the two sections, and in the process make a lot more money per pen. But perhaps they were running out of nib sections.