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Best dark brown(brown/black, walnut, etc) and best super-black for TR paper (old, 52gsm)


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I think I got it all in the title. 

 

Would someone who enjoys using a really dark brown ink and uses TR paper mind saying hi and letting me know their thoughts on the best match?  I was looking at Noodler's Walnut (reviews say very long dry time) and Diamine Chocolate Brown to start with, and would enjoy someone who has one or both and TR paper (the old formulation of 52gsm) and could let me know how they work on that?

 

Also, well-behaved extreme black inks on the same paper?  I tend to use F nibs, though XF and M have been known to slip into rotation.  Funds are limited, otherwise it would be buy lots and try for myself.  Any help is appreciated.

 

Thanks!

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Firstly, how do you evaluate ink? What are your criteria for good, and how are they weighted, so that it is possible to compare and determine what is best out of a number of candidates?

 

I don't think you can go too wrong with the writing outcomes using Platinum Classic Ink Khaki Black (or Sepia Black), Sailor Shikiori Doyou, or Pilot Iroshizuku Yama-guri. Without knowing your specific criteria, however, there is no point in describing them or comparing them; there are enough reviews online for each ink as it is, to tell you what each one is like.

I endeavour to be frank and truthful in what I write, show or otherwise present, when I relate my first-hand experiences that are not independently verifiable; and link to third-party content where I can, when I make a claim or refute a statement of fact in a thread. If there is something you can verify for yourself, I entreat you to do so, and judge for yourself what is right, correct, and valid. I may be wrong, and my position or say-so is no more authoritative and carries no more weight than anyone else's here.

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Aside from the points @A Smug Dill mentioned concerning how to measure and evaluate, my two recommendations would be

 

Robert Oster Motor Oil or (maybe easier available or as a budget option) Diamine Chocolate

Platinum Carbon Black or (maybe easier available or as a budget option) J. Herbin Perle noire

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I suggest purchasing samples and seeing for yourself.  What works for Peter may not work for Paul.

Add lightness and simplicate.

 

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As dark browns go, my go-to's have been Diamine Macassar first, followed by Iro Yama-guri. More recently, I've been impressed with KWZ Lux Grey; it's close to Yama-guri but a bit darker, I think.

It's hard work to tell which is Old Harry when everybody's got boots on.

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Samples Samples Samples

 

Try different inks in your pens so you can learn what you like and what works for you.  Truly, this is the least expensive way to get the right ink for you.

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Just a couple of dark browns to consider.  Sailor Doyou is velvety smooth on the page and an outstanding ink but may be one that isn't being made any longer.  Another that isn't too readily available is Noodler's Proctor's Ledge.  There are also a assortment of dark browns from KWZ.  Check out the comparisons that are available online.  Mountain of Ink has a ton of reviews and Inkswacth.com has comparisons that will give you a good look at the variations that are out there.  Search in happiness.

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3 hours ago, bugsydog55 said:

Sailor Doyou is velvety smooth on the page and an outstanding ink but may be one that isn't being made any longer.

 

As far as I can see, Sailor Shikiori Doyou ink is still in the current product line-up. You can get it in 20ml bottles (item number 13-1008-206), and 3-packs of ink cartridges (item number 13-0350-206) that will fit all Sailor pen models, including the Professional Gear Slim Mini, except for the out-of-production ultra-slim models such as the Chalana.

I endeavour to be frank and truthful in what I write, show or otherwise present, when I relate my first-hand experiences that are not independently verifiable; and link to third-party content where I can, when I make a claim or refute a statement of fact in a thread. If there is something you can verify for yourself, I entreat you to do so, and judge for yourself what is right, correct, and valid. I may be wrong, and my position or say-so is no more authoritative and carries no more weight than anyone else's here.

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5 hours ago, bugsydog55 said:

Just a couple of dark browns to consider.  Sailor Doyou is velvety smooth on the page and an outstanding ink but may be one that isn't being made any longer.  Another that isn't too readily available is Noodler's Proctor's Ledge.  There are also a assortment of dark browns from KWZ.  Check out the comparisons that are available online.  Mountain of Ink has a ton of reviews and Inkswacth.com has comparisons that will give you a good look at the variations that are out there.  Search in happiness.

 

I adore Proctor's Ledge.

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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