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Here is the 24 September update with eleven additional inks generously tested by Tom Kellie (as appear in above posts)..

 

Inks for Italic Edge 100

   Recommended: Dry and | or Light Colours

   Tested:

      BIRMINGHAM PENS

         [Carrau reports all looked and behaved well]

         Aluminium Oxide **

            (blue|teal grey) darker than usual,

            nearly black

         Barley

            light colour, softly glowing, shades well in this nib

         Brushwood 

            good shading

         Cornflower **

            (med blue, H20 resist) slightly darker; 

            fine behaviour

         Eroded Bronze **

            (slate blue) improved saturation

            makes it usable 

         Lichen Watermark **

            (murky green) now med saturation 

         Pincushion Moss **

            (green, H20 resist) deeper green than 

             usual 

         Tattered Jute **

            (sepia, H20 resist) perfect in this pen 

      CARAN D’ACHE  

         Chromatics Magnetic Blue

         Chromatics Ultra Violet

            highest performance in this nib 

      COLORVERSE  

         TexMex

            high saturation 

         Quahog

            pale, distinctive colour

      DE ATRAMENTIS  

         Kir Royal

            (scented) this complex formulation of  
            natural ingredients and pigments performs well

      DIAMINE  

         Blue Black Archival Registrar’s Ink

         China Blue

         Damson

         Deep Magenta

            well behaved 

         Delamere Green

            high saturation; well lubricated

         Earl Grey **

            darker grey; more saturated than usual

         Eau de Nil

         Eclipse **

            (very dark purple) black when wet; 

            T. Kellie reports favourably 

         Golden Brown

         Green Umber

         Havasu Turquoise

            ravishing colour is very impressive in this nib 

         Honey Burst

         Maroon

         Prussian Blue

         Quartz Black

            dark tone, but the nib still exhibits pleasant shading 

         Red Dragon

         Safari

            admirably suited for this pen 

         Salamander

         Sargasso Sea

         Silver Fox

            well behaved; excellent shading

         Teal

      FERRIS WHEEL PRESS  

         Fleur-de-nuit

            pale, pastel ink performs well in this nib

      FRITZ SCHIMPF

         Fritzrot * ^

            (red) wet; good saturation; good 

            shading

         Gelassenheit

            an ideal ink for this pen

         Gewitterwolke

         Morgenröte

         Niebla

            (misty violet) an ideal ink for this pen

         Photographer’s Blue ^^^

            dryness is good match for this nib; good shading

         Sirimiri

         Sundowner *

            (orange) wet; good saturation; good 

            shading

         Zwischenlicht ^ **

      J HERBIN

         Ambre de Birmanie

         Bleu des Profondours

         Bleu Myosotis

            optimal ink flow and no skipping 

         Café des Iles

         Éclat de Saphir

         Larmes de Cassis

         Rose Cyclamen

         Rouge Opéra

            deep colour enhanced by this pen’s broad strokes

         Rouille d’Ancre

            anchor rust pastel colour shows well in this nib

         Vert Empire

         Vert Réséda

            colour inspired by mignonette (Reseda) foliage

      JACQUES HERBIN

         Rouge d’Orient

      JUSTWRITE + MONTBLANC (amberleadavis’ personal blend)

         Blackstone Red + Red Fox (Petit Prince) ^^

            redder than Red Fox; nib crud evident

      KWZ  

         Grapefruit

            high saturation 

         Honey

         [Carrau reports both, below, looked and  

         performed outstandingly]

         Iron Gall Blue-Black **
           high saturation; no shading in dip test

         Iron Gall Green #3 **
           (green-black) similar colour to the tree 

            Norway spruce; high saturation; no 

            shading in dip test

         Maroon

      KYOTO INKS

         Kyo No Oto Aonibi **

            (slate blue) beautiful shading; slight 

            skipping; performs best in this pen

         Kyo No Oto Adzuki-Iro 

         Kyo No Oto Hisoku

         Kyo No Oto Kokeiro

         Kyo No Oto Moegiiro

            rich colour; excellent shading; top-level 

            performance 

         Kyo No Oto Sakuranezumi

         Kyo No Oto Yamabukiiro

         Kyo-Iro Flaming Red of Fushimi

         Kyo-Iro Soft Snow of Ohara

         Kyo-Iro Stone Road of Gion

      L’ ARTISAN PASTELLIER

         Bleu Méditerranée

         Gris de Payne

            bravura performance in this nib

         Heure Dorée

         Omi Osun

         Sepia

         Teodora

         Yalumba

      L’ ARTISAN PASTELLIER CALLIFOLIO

         Anahuac

         Andrinople

            dark, rich-toned ink

         Atlantique

         Aurora

         Bosohore

            this premium dry ink works well in the nib

         Bourgogne

            another example of a sophisticated ink 

            working well in this nib

         Byzance

            truly outstanding performance in this nib

         Equinoxe(6)

         Inti

      MONTBLANC

         Burgundy Red 

         Chinese Blue (The Blues Palette)

            soothing colour evokes fine blue porcelain 

         Cool Grey

         Enzo Ferrari Purple

            deep, rich, resonant purple 

         Green (Hommage à the Brothers Grimm)

            dark tone; shades well; full richness of hue 

            on display

         Lapis Lazuli (The Blues Palette)

            classic, rich blue shows well in this nib 

         Meisterstück Glacier

         Midnight Blue

         Miles Davis Jazz Blue ^^^

            dry, not very saturated ink, shades well in this nib

         Mint Green (Hommage à Victoria & Albert)

         Modena Red

         Red Fox (Petit Prince)

         Royal Blue

         Scarlet Red (Hommage à Arthur Conan Doyle)

         Toffee Brown **

            (usually reddish brown) more 

            saturated; more red when wet | more 

            chocolate when dry; modest shading on

            Rhodia

         Ultramarine (The Blues Palette) ^^^

            wet; very dark; good shading; sheen present 

            (amount is paper dependent - gold on Tomoe

            River)

      PARKER  

         Quink Blue Black

            (“permanent” or stain-capable, not waterproof)

         Quink Washable Blue 

      PELIKAN EDELSTEIN  

         Olivine ^^^

            more shading than seen with 

            P.W. AKKERMAN Shocking Blue

         Tanzanite

         Topaz

            dry ink with richly saturated hue performs well in this nib

      PELIKAN 4001  

         [Iron Gall] Blue-Black **

            T. Kellie reports this ink is an ideal match    
            for this nib as it’s notably dry

         Brilliant Brown

            well behaved, smooth flow, no skipping

         Königsblau [Royal Blue]

         Turquoise 

         Violet

      PILOT

         Iroshizuku Ajisai **

            (light blue) colour similar to but more 

            saturated than the flowers the Cape 

            Jasmine (Plumbago) and the Cornflower

         Iroshizuku Chiku-rin

         Iroshizuku Fuyu-syogun

         Iroshizuku Kiri-same

            (light grey) shades well in this nib

         Iroshizuku Kon-peki

         Iroshizuku Syo-ro

            typically of  Iroshizuku, well suited to this nib’s 

            ability to display rich colour 

         Iroshizuku Tsuyu-kusa

      PLATINUM

         Cassis Black

         Pigment Ink Brun Sepia

            [pigmented]

      P.W. AKKERMAN  

         China Town Red

            very well suited to the nib

         Delft Blue **

         Koninginne Nach-Blauw

         Laan van Nieuw Oost-Indigo

         Residentie Blauw

         Royal Akkermanblauw

            quintessentially premium ink works well in this nib

         Shocking Blue ^^^

            little shading; slight sheen; ink may be too wet for this nib

      ROBERT OSTER

         African Gold

            striking colour, beautiful shading

         Australian Opal Pink

            very light-toned ink performs in this pen

         Caffe Crema

         Dragon’s Night

            very dark ink still shades in this nib

         Fire Engine Red

         Grey Seas **

            (blue-leaning grey) well behaved;

            beautiful shading; T. Kellie reports superb hue and                    
            performance

         Midnight Sapphire **

            (grey-leaning blue) well behaved;

            lovely shading similar to PELIKAN 4001 

            Blue-Black

         Muddy Bucket

            shades very well

         Purple Rock **

            (grey purple) much more saturated |

            darker; less grey than usual; less 

            shading than usual

         Terracotta

            an ideal ink for this pen

         Vanness Blue River
      ROHRER & KLINGER

         Alt-Bordeaux

         Alt-Goldgrün

         Deep Pine Forest

         Dokumentus Light Blue

            (H20 resist)

         Kastanienbraun

         Leipziger Schwarz

            very dark ink provides intense contrast in this nib 

         [Iron Gall] Salix

         [Iron Gall] Scabiosa

         Verdigris

         Verdura
      SAILOR

         [Pigmented] Nano Kiwa-guro

            (“shiny” black, H20 resist) dark tone 

         Manyo Ink Nadeshiko **

            (light blue) colour similar to but more 

            saturated than the flowers the Cape 

            Jasmine (Plumbago) and the Cornflower;

            (similar to PILOT Iroshizuku Ajisai)

         Manyo Ink Ume

         Nagasawa Kobe Ink Maiko-West Pearl Blue

            pale ink shades well in this nib

         Shikiori Ink Yonaga

            dark ink’s subtle tones show well in the nib

         Yurameku Ink Itezora

            pale ink that shades well in the nib

         Yurameku Ink Kyokkou

            light tone performs well in the nib
      
SCRIBE

         Indigo ^^^

            good shading; sheen present (amount is 

            paper dependent)

      SUPER5

         Delhi | Orange ^^

      TACCIA UKIYO-E

         Hiroshige-Ruri

            dry; effortless performance

      WALDMANN

         Blue

            good shading 

      WATERMAN

         Serenity Blue **

            very wet

——————

   Tested by:

      * Como (on Feinpost or Brause Calligraphy)

      ** Carrau (on Rhodia or Staples TruRed)

      ^ Sebastian Stolz (on Feinpost)
      ^^ amberleadavis

      ^^^ bunnspecial (on Feinpost, Rhodia, or Tomoe River)

      all others Tom Kellie (on Feinpost)

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On 9/24/2022 at 12:37 AM, Tom Kellie said:

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I would note that your pen's ink window is still crystal clear. Maybe it's time to try Bay State Blue!😁

"One can not waste time worrying about small minds . . . If we were normal, we'd still be using free ball point pens." —Bo Bo Olson

 

"I already own more ink than a rational person can use in a lifetime." —Waski_the_Squirrel

 

I'm still trying to figure out how to list all my pens down here.

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The Fritz Schimpf web site now lists the Italic Edge as "Artikel nicht auf Lager."  

I wonder if they have now sold out of the Special Edition Italic Edge or if it just means their stock is temporarily depleted?

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2 hours ago, Seney724 said:

The Fritz Schimpf web site now lists the Italic Edge as "Artikel nicht auf Lager."  

I wonder if they have now sold out of the Special Edition Italic Edge or if it just means their stock is temporarily depleted?

The English version of the Fritz- Schimpf website says:

 

Item #: FSTItalicEdge

Article not in stock

 

 

They had 100 of these made. I believe they were all picked up at once—there is a photo here somewhere. If someone still wants one, I would email Fritz-Schimpf. For some of their other pens, they have had a few extras, returns, etc. around. Now we just have to wait for the next special edition. I wonder what it will be . . . . 

"One can not waste time worrying about small minds . . . If we were normal, we'd still be using free ball point pens." —Bo Bo Olson

 

"I already own more ink than a rational person can use in a lifetime." —Waski_the_Squirrel

 

I'm still trying to figure out how to list all my pens down here.

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2 minutes ago, Frank C said:

The English version of the Fritz- Schimpf website says:

 

Item #: FSTItalicEdge

Article not in stock

 

 

They had 100 of these made. I believe they were all picked up at once—there is a photo here somewhere. If someone still wants one, I would email Fritz-Schimpf. For some of their other pens, they have had a few extras, returns, etc. around. Now we just have to wait for the next special edition. I wonder what it will be . . . . 

Yes, that is the correct translation. 

 

But, have a look at the entries for the 1 )Montblanc x Fritz Schimpf Special Edition The Expressive and 2) for the Montblanc x Fritz Schimpf special edition Italic 100...  

Each of these say Sold out......... as opposed to Article not in stock    That's why I asked.........

 

I would agree, if one is interested they are best advised to contact Fritz-Schimpf. 

And, yes, now we all must eagerly await the announcement of their next special edition. 

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2 hours ago, Seney724 said:

Yes, that is the correct translation. 

 

But, have a look at the entries for the 1 )Montblanc x Fritz Schimpf Special Edition The Expressive and 2) for the Montblanc x Fritz Schimpf special edition Italic 100...  

Each of these say Sold out......... as opposed to Article not in stock    That's why I asked.........

 

I would agree, if one is interested they are best advised to contact Fritz-Schimpf. 

And, yes, now we all must eagerly await the announcement of their next special edition. 

I was able to purchase one of the previous editions after the website said, "Sold out" or "Article not in stock", I don't recall which. I only discovered these pens after the first two were gone. I had just ordered several pens from Fritz-Schimpf, previously and I inquired about the special editions. It turned out a few had been returned for repairs to Montblanc. I had to wait for a month or two for the repair and I paid the retail price. I really like that pen, too, so I was just happy to get one. At the time, there was one on ebay for triple the list price. 

"One can not waste time worrying about small minds . . . If we were normal, we'd still be using free ball point pens." —Bo Bo Olson

 

"I already own more ink than a rational person can use in a lifetime." —Waski_the_Squirrel

 

I'm still trying to figure out how to list all my pens down here.

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12 minutes ago, Frank C said:

I was able to purchase one of the previous editions after the website said, "Sold out" or "Article not in stock", I don't recall which. I only discovered these pens after the first two were gone. I had just ordered several pens from Fritz-Schimpf, previously and I inquired about the special editions. It turned out a few had been returned for repairs to Montblanc. I had to wait for a month or two for the repair and I paid the retail price. I really like that pen, too, so I was just happy to get one. At the time, there was one on ebay for triple the list price. 

Good to know!

Thanks!!

 

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11 minutes ago, Seney724 said:

Good to know!

Thanks!!

 

If you want one, email them. I have always found their service to be exemplary. 

"One can not waste time worrying about small minds . . . If we were normal, we'd still be using free ball point pens." —Bo Bo Olson

 

"I already own more ink than a rational person can use in a lifetime." —Waski_the_Squirrel

 

I'm still trying to figure out how to list all my pens down here.

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4 minutes ago, Frank C said:

If you want one, email them. I have always found their service to be exemplary. 

Actually, I was going to do that.......but then I came upon the posts here and on FPG about "MJR" which made me decide to stay away.  With people like you, @JungleJim and other very experienced, repeat, high end, Montblanc owners having those kind of experiences.  Who needs that kind of aggravation!!  It seems to me that Montblanc made a very bad decision and I'd just as soon sit tight before I jump into purchasing another.  

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1 hour ago, Seney724 said:

Actually, I was going to do that.......but then I came upon the posts here and on FPG about "MJR" which made me decide to stay away.  With people like you, @JungleJim and other very experienced, repeat, high end, Montblanc owners having those kind of experiences.  Who needs that kind of aggravation!!  It seems to me that Montblanc made a very bad decision and I'd just as soon sit tight before I jump into purchasing another.  

I wouldn't worry about this pen. It comes out of the MB "custom shop", so it is their best product made by the most experienced craftspeople. Fritz-Schimpf is a major dealer in Germany and they would make sure any problems get fixed. I have never heard any complaints about MB service in Hamburg—and I've had great work done by them; they repaired my Hemingway. 

 

The problems in the USA seem to have started when they closed down the MB factory repair shop in Texas and farmed repairs out to the watch repair contractor in California. Watches are more complicated than pens, but if you don't know or care about what you're doing, it doesn't matter. 

 

If you can still get an Italic Edge and don't like it, you can probably sell it for more than you paid for it. 

"One can not waste time worrying about small minds . . . If we were normal, we'd still be using free ball point pens." —Bo Bo Olson

 

"I already own more ink than a rational person can use in a lifetime." —Waski_the_Squirrel

 

I'm still trying to figure out how to list all my pens down here.

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1 minute ago, Frank C said:

I wouldn't worry about this pen. It comes out of the MB "custom shop", so it is their best product made by the most experienced craftspeople. Fritz-Schimpf is a major dealer in Germany and they would make sure any problems get fixed. I have never heard any complaints about MB service in Hamburg—and I've had great work done by them; they repaired my Hemingway. 

 

The problems in the USA seem to have started when they closed down the MB factory repair shop in Texas and farmed repairs out to the watch repair contractor in California. Watches are more complicated than pens, but if you don't know or care about what you're doing, it doesn't matter. 

 

If you can still get an Italic Edge and don't like it, you can probably sell it for more than you paid for it. 

Thanks for the added insights & encouragement @Frank C.  They are much appreciated.

 

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I strongly suspect F-S themselves tested my Italic Edge before shipping it to me.


Why do I think that? there was a letter addressed to me in the box written in what I'm guessing was one of their in-house inks. When I unboxed the pen, I wiped the nib off(it showed some condensation) and the paper towel showed(faintly) the same color as the ink in the letter. I'd not be surprised if the pen they shipped me was used to write that letter.

 

Also, Frank C. mentioned these coming out of the "custom shop." I'd had the impression-perhaps incorrect-that these were effectively high volume bespoke nibs. Whatever the case, it's pretty obvious that they get more attention than regular run of the mill 149s.

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3 hours ago, bunnspecial said:

I strongly suspect F-S themselves tested my Italic Edge before shipping it to me.


Why do I think that? there was a letter addressed to me in the box written in what I'm guessing was one of their in-house inks. When I unboxed the pen, I wiped the nib off(it showed some condensation) and the paper towel showed(faintly) the same color as the ink in the letter. I'd not be surprised if the pen they shipped me was used to write that letter.

 

Also, Frank C. mentioned these coming out of the "custom shop." I'd had the impression-perhaps incorrect-that these were effectively high volume bespoke nibs. Whatever the case, it's pretty obvious that they get more attention than regular run of the mill 149s.

I refer you to the original announcement on FPN:

 

 

Specifically:

 

On May 10th, 

the day of the grand inauguration 

of the Montblanc Haus, 

we spent the day behind 

this fascinating building test writing 

the 100 nibs of our upcoming edition. 

 

 

 

 

It sounds like Fritz-Schimpf's representatives tested all 100 nibs before they left Hamburg. Special projects like this come from the same people who make the bespoke nibs. 

"One can not waste time worrying about small minds . . . If we were normal, we'd still be using free ball point pens." —Bo Bo Olson

 

"I already own more ink than a rational person can use in a lifetime." —Waski_the_Squirrel

 

I'm still trying to figure out how to list all my pens down here.

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11 hours ago, Seney724 said:

The Fritz Schimpf web site now lists the Italic Edge as "Artikel nicht auf Lager."  

I wonder if they have now sold out of the Special Edition Italic Edge or if it just means their stock is temporarily depleted?

I wonder if there was an error - this is what I saw tonight:

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57 minutes ago, Frank C said:

I refer you to the original announcement on FPN:

 

 

Specifically:

 

 

On May 10th, 

the day of the grand inauguration 

of the Montblanc Haus, 

we spent the day behind 

this fascinating building test writing 

the 100 nibs of our upcoming edition. 

 

 

 

 

It sounds like Fritz-Schimpf's representatives tested all 100 nibs before they left Hamburg. Special projects like this come from the same people who make the bespoke nibs. 

 

Thanks!

 

Love the photo of all of the nibs, and it's crazy for me to think that mine could well be in that photo. I see ~25 nibs, so there's about a 1-in-4 chance any given pen was there...

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    • Shanghai Knife Dude
      I have the Sailor Naginata and some fancy blade nibs coming after 2022 by a number of new workshop from China.  With all my respect, IMHO, they are all (bleep) in doing chinese characters.  Go use a bush, or at least a bush pen. 
    • A Smug Dill
      It is the reason why I'm so keen on the idea of a personal library — of pens, nibs, inks, paper products, etc. — and spent so much money, as well as time and effort, to “build” it for myself (because I can't simply remember everything, especially as I'm getting older fast) and my wife, so that we can “know”; and, instead of just disposing of what displeased us, or even just not good enough to be “given the time of day” against competition from >500 other pens and >500 other inks for our at
    • adamselene
      Agreed.  And I think it’s good to be aware of this early on and think about at the point of buying rather than rationalizing a purchase..
    • A Smug Dill
      Alas, one cannot know “good” without some idea of “bad” against which to contrast; and, as one of my former bosses (back when I was in my twenties) used to say, “on the scale of good to bad…”, it's a spectrum, not a dichotomy. Whereas subjectively acceptable (or tolerable) and unacceptable may well be a dichotomy to someone, and finding whether the threshold or cusp between them lies takes experiencing many degrees of less-than-ideal, especially if the decision is somehow influenced by factors o
    • adamselene
      I got my first real fountain pen on my 60th birthday and many hundreds of pens later I’ve often thought of what I should’ve known in the beginning. I have many pens, the majority of which have some objectionable feature. If they are too delicate, or can’t be posted, or they are too precious to face losing , still they are users, but only in very limited environments..  I have a big disliking for pens that have the cap jump into the air and fly off. I object to Pens that dry out, or leave blobs o
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