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Platinum brings out a new LE this year - the 3776 Decade.

Limited to 3776 WW, 44000 Yen in Japan.

https://www.platinum-pen.co.jp/common/img/pdf/dicade_special_page(domestic).pdf

(see the spelling mistake in the link)

 

A lot of box for a pen, a cartridge, a converter, 20ml of ink and booklet.

"A lot of box" means "too much".

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Thanks for sharing the news.

 

I like the look of this model, with grooves and (most of all) flat ends, but the step-down from barrel to gripping section looks ever more, um, edgy than that on the regular cigar-shaped models which already bother my fingers enough.

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It's an interesting looking pen. Not sure I find it all that appealing aesthetically though I'll be very curious about that nib. (I find the regular 3776 nibs to be unremarkable). 

 

As I recall the 100th anniversary Platinum pen(s) had run-of-the-mill 3776 nibs. Assuming that's true I find it fascinating that they'd produce a new nib for this pen, but not the 100th anniversary. 

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1 hour ago, sketchstack said:

As I recall the 100th anniversary Platinum pen(s) had run-of-the-mill 3776 nibs.

 

Huh? No

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Ugh, too on the big packaging from a user perspective but I guess 10 years in celebration makes for a big show to all the hard work; arigato Team 3776!

 

The nib shape reminds me of Pineider's Quill nib with the narrower profile sans cut outs. Given that profile, I suspect this will be softer/lusher than the stock 3776 as they show with their Load x Deflection curve graph, but is this range of 0.1 mm to 1.0 mm enough of a tactile difference?

 

In my hand, Pineider's Quill does have a smidge more lush than standard Bock but not more than Nakaya's Elastic (cut outs). I think Platinum's Decade will lean toward the Quill nib in feel. Add to the mix JoWo Elastic Steel and Gold coming out on other brands shows, the market is maturing with more range of experiences; yay!

 

Now the question, which to choose: Fine or Medium ?

 

Some retailers list just Fine and Medium, Appelboom lists Fine and Soft Medium and adding to the confusion Platinum's marketing showing 'M' for the nib shot but the load x deflection curve graph is labelled 'New F Nib' ?!?!

 

How are consumers to unravel this confusing chaos and get to the bottom of this FP mystery?

 

Well, that is the rationale I'll be providing to my wife to justify purchase 😅 

 

"Honey, I'm not a pen collector, I'm a pen tester! (well, not that kind of pentester)"

 

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17 minutes ago, peroride said:

Some retailers list just Fine and Medium, Appelboom lists Fine and Soft Medium and adding to the confusion Platinum's marketing showing 'M' for the nib shot but the load x deflection curve graph is labelled 'New F Nib' ?!?!

 

The 10th Anniversary special edition comes with a factory-fitted F nib as one option. M is the other, according to both the Japanese and English versions of the marketing collateral (PDF file). The graph you referred to illustrates how the new nib design has a different response profile to pressure, pitching the new F nib against two other #3776 14K gold nibs of that width grade. Where's the confusion due to the "New F nib"? I mean, customers who order this edition of the pen with F nibs know exactly what they will be getting.

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5 hours ago, A Smug Dill said:

customers who order this edition of the pen with F nibs know exactly what they will be getting.

The current 3776 Century range designations are F, SF, M

 

Judging from the promotion, I would guess the Decade F and M would be softer with that  "new writing feel with great flexibility" but for New Decade F not softer than current SF (as the graph shows) whereas New Decade M would be softer than current M, fullstop since there is no current SM. I'm guessing Appelboom is trying to help consumers understand that with the SM designation even though officially it's just going to be F and M.

 

I have a 3776 F and SF and have a hard time telling the difference with my poor tactile perception even with Newton x mm deflection curves, my hand is out of bounds, so will probably get a Decade M since I don't have a M 3776.

 

That said, no one knows what they will exactly they will be getting until the pen is released and can test.

 

All be new! 🤩

 

The nib does look pretty though and with that old nostalgic feel, I sure hope the Decade will do well.

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2 minutes ago, peroride said:

whereas New Decade M would be softer than current M, fullstop since there is no current SM.

 

There is. I have one. It's just that SM nibs are rarely offered these days on Platinum #3776 Century models.

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1 minute ago, A Smug Dill said:

I have one.

Good to know! Guessing Decade M is not as soft as your SM 

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1 minute ago, peroride said:

Guessing Decade M is not as soft as your SM

 

Probably. If Platinum was to show a chart comparing the current M nib, current SM nib, and the Decade's M nib, it might look something like the one (for various nibs of Fine width grade) in the Decade's marketing collateral.

 

I personally don't like the SM nib, and hardly ever use the pen to which it is fitted as a result.

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mmm... I guess the positive aspects of the 3776 Decade gift set includes: 1) new redesigned nib, and 2) Fuji Blue ink (I actually like the blue with purplish sheen).

 

However, I'm a bit disappointed that they used the semi-gathered design but instead adopted a twist mechanism rather than the 3776 gathered's snap-shut mechanism. The step down barrel.... *sigh* 

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37 minutes ago, Ronderick said:

However, I'm a bit disappointed that they used the semi-gathered design but instead adopted a twist mechanism rather than the 3776 gathered's snap-shut mechanism.

 

The snap-cap models in the #3776 line are not fitted with the #3776 Century's signature Slip & Seal mechanism; and, in my experience, their cap sealing effectiveness suffers a lot from that shortcoming.

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23 hours ago, A Smug Dill said:

 

Huh? No

 

I meant the nib shape. The 100th anniversary do indeed seem to have a special stamping but to my eye the nib seems to be the same shape as the 3776. 

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On 6/5/2022 at 3:36 AM, sketchstack said:

As I recall the 100th anniversary Platinum pen(s) had run-of-the-mill 3776 nibs. Assuming that's true I find it fascinating that they'd produce a new nib for this pen, but not the 100th anniversary. 

On 6/6/2022 at 4:21 AM, sketchstack said:

I meant the nib shape. The 100th anniversary do indeed seem to have a special stamping but to my eye the nib seems to be the same shape as the 3776.

 

I'm sure they have the same geometry. What makes the nib on the Platinum Century “The Prime” so special is not the nib inscription and graphics, but that the nib is made of platinum (on the limited platinum edition) and not gold.

 

Those pens were made to commemorate the company's 100th anniversary, so there is little reason to renovate the #3776 nib design for the occasion. Whereas this limited edition is specifically,

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In commemoration of the 10th anniversary of the #3776 CENTURY, a special limited edition is brought to life to mark the new beginning of the series.

 

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3 hours ago, A Smug Dill said:

I'm sure they have the same geometry. What makes the nib on the Platinum Century “The Prime” so special is not the nib inscription and graphics, but that the nib is made of platinum (on the limited platinum edition) and not gold.

 

Ah, I hadn't realized (or read closely enough) that the Prime has an actual platinum nib. And of course it does, given the name of the company and the important milestone!

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On 6/5/2022 at 3:43 PM, A Smug Dill said:

 

The snap-cap models in the #3776 line are not fitted with the #3776 Century's signature Slip & Seal mechanism; and, in my experience, their cap sealing effectiveness suffers a lot from that shortcoming.

 

Yes, I totally agree that w/o the sealing mechanism, 3776 gathered is prone to ink flow issues after a short period of time (even worse - I use Platinum permanent black on mine's, so I usually run into problems after a few weeks of disuse). However, I have to say that out of the several 3776 models I've flirted with, gathered is the one which I use the most often.

 

I have to admit, I was awfully excited by the semi-gathered design on Decade. Though I'm not sure whether the slip&seal mechanism will be a good tradeoff (less dry ink issues) for the convenience of the snap mechanics. Of course, w/o actually holding the pen, it still remains to be seen whether Decade's reduced barrel rings will offer a satisfying degree of holding comfort.    

 

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On 6/5/2022 at 12:43 AM, A Smug Dill said:

The snap-cap models in the #3776 line are not fitted with the #3776 Century's signature Slip & Seal mechanism; and, in my experience, their cap sealing effectiveness suffers a lot from that shortcoming.

 

Testify. I have one of those Gathered models, probably from the late 80's (unlike most of my pens made in that era, I bought it new at the time, but I just don't remember exactly when) and this is why it doesn't get used as often. The snap was actually quite loose when I dug it out of mothballs 3 years ago, but thanks to advice from someone on here I was able to fiddle with the snap actuators in the cap and now it snaps pretty tightly. Still goes dry faster than the slip & seal models, but now it is at least usable. 

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I give my snap cap Platinum nibs a quick dip in a little jam jar of water every morning to get the flow going for the rest of the day. This effectively makes them desk pens (which I normally wouldn’t like), but they’ve actually multiplied since work-from-home keeps me bound to a desk.

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Here are some pages from the latest issue of Hobby Stationery Box Vol 62. While I can't read it, one of the pages certainly looks like an overview of the 3776 nib shape over the years, which is interesting. 

 

 

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