I need a dark (blurple) blue ink...

[IanP2303]

8 hours ago, ErrantSmudge said:

Two more PPS doppelgängers: Diamine Blue Velvet and Monteverde Horizon Blue.

 

8 hours ago, bunnspecial said:

Well, Penman Sapphire is available and actually reasonably plentiful on the secondary market(it's a lot easier to find than Penman Emerald and Ruby in my experience!) but it's out there.

 

There are a lot of PPS dopelgangers. For the past year, I've been trying to talk up Scribe Indigo, which is made by the guy who developed the Penman inks for Parker. Bungubox First Love Sapphire is not to my eye a great hue match(I think it's a bit more blue) but gets the saturation correct. Asa Gao is one of my go-to easy to find ones. PR Supershow Blue and American Blue are very similar to each other, and reasonable fascimiles.

 

I'll also mention one I used more recently that's not a perfect match, but has the same feel and a lot of saturation-Visconti Blue. It is a nice dark and saturated blue color.

 

Akkerman #5 Shocking Blue is to my eye a bit darker, but has the reddish sheen and general feel of PPS. Supposedly Diamine Majestic Blue is more or less the same ink, but I've not tried them side by side.

 

As I'm mentioning these inks, I'll add that I'm only discussing inks I personally own and have used, and I do have more than enough Penman to compare them directly.

Great suggestions from the both of you, cheers @bunnspecial, @ErrantSmudgefor the very informative analysis. I don't know why, but American Blue feels a bit "bluer" than Suprshow Blue. I won't look for the Penman Sapphire, I have to wait for it to come and it might be rather expensive and other bothersome factors. I am eyeing Diamine Majestic Blue, what do you guys think?

 

Cheers,

Ian

[bunnspecial]

7 hours ago, IanP2303 said:

 

Great suggestions from the both of you, cheers @bunnspecial, @ErrantSmudgefor the very informative analysis. I don't know why, but American Blue feels a bit "bluer" than Suprshow Blue. I won't look for the Penman Sapphire, I have to wait for it to come and it might be rather expensive and other bothersome factors. I am eyeing Diamine Majestic Blue, what do you guys think?

 

Cheers,

Ian

 

As I said, assuming Majectic Blue is actually the same as Akkerman #5 Shocking Blue, I think you'd be happy with it.

 

I've done mixed reviews here and there where I've put PPS next to one other ink, but I've never done a big shoot-out. I'll try to do that later today. I have a pen inked with #5 shocking blue now. I don't currently have anything inked with Penman, but I should fix that as I normally do.

[IanP2303]

3 hours ago, bunnspecial said:

 

As I said, assuming Majectic Blue is actually the same as Akkerman #5 Shocking Blue, I think you'd be happy with it.

 

I've done mixed reviews here and there where I've put PPS next to one other ink, but I've never done a big shoot-out. I'll try to do that later today. I have a pen inked with #5 shocking blue now. I don't currently have anything inked with Penman, but I should fix that as I normally do.

Wow, wonderful! Akkerman's Shocking Blue isn't as accessible as Majestic Blue and I can get my hans on the small Diamine bottles for a cheap price. So, I could try and experiment with different types of inks without spending too much. I would love to see the Penman, cheers!

 

Cheers,

Ian 

[FLZapped]

On 6/5/2022 at 9:43 PM, IanP2303 said:

A fabulous suggestion, but I am considering DC Supershow Blue, love the colour. Albeit Black Magic Blue is what I am looking for. I'm not sure Black Magic Blue is available in Hong Kong?

Doesn't look like it is. Below is a link to the parent company's international sites:

https://yafabrands.com/international-locations/

[IanP2303]

8 hours ago, FLZapped said:

Doesn't look like it is. Below is a link to the parent company's international sites:

https://yafabrands.com/international-locations/

A pity indeed.

[HobbitLife]

On 6/6/2022 at 11:28 PM, ErrantSmudge said:

 

I am a fan of Monteverde Sapphire

 

Me too - when I went on a similar hunt for a dark Blurple this was where I landed. More saturated than some of the other “Sapphire” inks out there (e.g. Diamine, Herbin) and has remarkable dry times.

[IanP2303]

On 6/20/2022 at 1:58 AM, HobbitLife said:

Me too - when I went on a similar hunt for a dark Blurple this was where I landed. More saturated than some of the other “Sapphire” inks out there (e.g. Diamine, Herbin) and has remarkable dry times.

I bought Majestic blue last week and now you are tempting me to buy another bottle of ink. Thanks a lot.

 

Cheers,

Ian

[HobbitLife]

Haha very welcome. Monteverde Sapphire is a bit more purple leaning than Majestic Blue and Majestic sheens heavily and dries more slowly. Those are the main differences I’ve seen. Both great inks though. 

[langere]

Might be too purple, but how about the new formulation of Private Reserve's Tanzanite?

 

Erick

[Linger]

I found sailor shikiori shigure to be a very dark bleuish purple. Would that be a contender?

[AlexLeGrande]

Re: Private Reserve Tanzanite.  A bottle recently arrived, and I've used it in my journal for the last few days, dipping several different nibs.  The broader the nib, the darker and more saturated the color, from a lighter purple lean in dry fine nibs to a dark blue lean in broad nibs.  I like this wet ink.

[IanP2303]

1 hour ago, AlexLeGrande said:

Re: Private Reserve Tanzanite.  A bottle recently arrived, and I've used it in my journal for the last few days, dipping several different nibs.  The broader the nib, the darker and more saturated the color, from a lighter purple lean in dry fine nibs to a dark blue lean in broad nibs.  I like this wet ink.

Interesting, I would love to try Private Reserve, especially DC Supershow Blue and Tanzanite, since you guys recommended it and I love the colour. The colour change sounds nice and desirable.

 

Cheers,

Ian

[IanP2303]

On 6/22/2022 at 10:33 PM, HobbitLife said:

Haha very welcome. Monteverde Sapphire is a bit more purple leaning than Majestic Blue and Majestic sheens heavily and dries more slowly. Those are the main differences I’ve seen. Both great inks though. 

I agree, it might be Tomoe's coating, but Majestic Blue needs a few days to fully dry. Monteverde Sapphire is exactly what I'm looking for, but I would love to try ink mixing with Majestic Blue first, because of its sheening qualities.

 

Cheers,
Ian

[IanP2303]

On 6/23/2022 at 4:26 AM, Linger said:

I found sailor shikiori shigure to be a very dark bleuish purple. Would that be a contender?

Too dark for what I consider a coblat/sapphire blurple. However, it would be a nice addition to my collection. The ink looks fabulous on it's own.

 

Cheers, 

Ian

[bunnspecial]

On 6/23/2022 at 7:51 PM, IanP2303 said:

I agree, it might be Tomoe's coating, but Majestic Blue needs a few days to fully dry.

 

I've used Akkerman Shocking Blue a fair bit, which is supposed to be more or less the same ink as Majestic Blue(and all Akkerman inks supposedly are made by Diamine).

 

I'm not sure if it's a matter of long dry time-I just think that it's so saturated that it will tend to smudge on slick paper if handled. I was using it for a while to do my lecture notes, and I'd find the pages smudged and my hands blue at the end of class regardless of whether I'd made them up the hour before or the month before. I recently pulled out a page from the spring semester(probably February) and it was still smudging.

 

I've noticed this a lot with high saturation blues in particular. Penman Sapphire and Visconti Blue do it also. I just think of them as the FP equivalent of newspaper ink...

[IanP2303]

3 hours ago, bunnspecial said:

 

I've used Akkerman Shocking Blue a fair bit, which is supposed to be more or less the same ink as Majestic Blue(and all Akkerman inks supposedly are made by Diamine).

 

I'm not sure if it's a matter of long dry time-I just think that it's so saturated that it will tend to smudge on slick paper if handled. I was using it for a while to do my lecture notes, and I'd find the pages smudged and my hands blue at the end of class regardless of whether I'd made them up the hour before or the month before. I recently pulled out a page from the spring semester(probably February) and it was still smudging.

 

I've noticed this a lot with high saturation blues in particular. Penman Sapphire and Visconti Blue do it also. I just think of them as the FP equivalent of newspaper ink...

Riveting, so you are buying Akkerman inks for their bottles and slightly different inks? I encounter the same problems as you do, Majestic Blue smudges after letting it dry for days on Tomoe, it might be the coating, at least it dries after a week or less. My problem is no where as bad as yours. No one mentioned how Penman Sapphire  smudges. Maybe I should reconsider buying the Penman Sapphire.

 

Cheers,

Ian

[AoKiu]

On 6/24/2022 at 8:47 AM, IanP2303 said:

Interesting, I would love to try Private Reserve, especially DC Supershow Blue and Tanzanite, since you guys recommended it and I love the colour. The colour change sounds nice and desirable.

 

Cheers,

Ian

'Doppelgänger' for Private Reserve Tanzanite: Monteverdi Charoite, - better behavior!

[CoolBreeze]

On 6/23/2022 at 7:27 PM, AlexLeGrande said:

Re: Private Reserve Tanzanite.  A bottle recently arrived, and I've used it in my journal for the last few days, dipping several different nibs.  The broader the nib, the darker and more saturated the color, from a lighter purple lean in dry fine nibs to a dark blue lean in broad nibs.  I like this wet ink.

Does PR Tanzanite still smear when it dries? It used to be my favorite burple but the dry smear was intolerable. Monteverde Charoite is my current go to but I am always looking for others.

 

With regards to the suggestions - most of these inks are either cobalts or sapphires. They are not Burples. You may have more luck changing the title of your thread.

[CoolBreeze]

14 hours ago, AoKiu said:

'Doppelgänger' for Private Reserve Tanzanite: Monteverdi Charoite, - better behavior!

I feel the same way. Have you found any other close ones to PR?

[IanP2303]

18 hours ago, AoKiu said:

'Doppelgänger' for Private Reserve Tanzanite: Monteverdi Charoite, - better behavior!

A green sheen?! I have never seen one before. What a magnificent ink! 

 

Cheers, 

Ian