Ink for Pilot Custom Urushi F-M

[David0966]

Hello to everyone,

 

I am fortunate enough to become interested in FPs a couple of years ago, and now have acquired the Pilot Custom Urushi F-M (PCU).  Of course, I love it.  I must say here that I am rather new to FPs, but would like to know a lot more.

 

In particular-have just figured out by experience that certain very nice, working, tuned, functional pens (not a thing "wrong" w them)--just work better w some inks than others.

 

For instance, this particular PCU (Vermillion) doesn't like Pelikan 4001 RB.  Pilot Iroshizuku Shin-Kai is pretty good, and Waterman Serenity Blue is RRing a little.

 

My ultimately goal is to get an ink that will help w what little bit of feedback there is from the nib.  Tactile feedback, that is.  I don't mind the auditory kind.

 

So, I'm trying to learn as much as I have time for (I currently work, and consider myself to be over-employed).  Have gone through Richard Binder's site (Thanks for your generosity, Sir).

 

So, any help w others who have the PCU, and a 'lubricated/ing' ink?

 

Help w finding a repository of knowledge on different inks and their chemistry?  Yes, a lot is proprietary.

 

And, Blue is what I prefer to write w-for various reasons.  Sheen, etc is cool sometimes, just looking for a workhorse smooooooth blue ink.

 

Thanks to all.

David

[jmccarty3]

I have always had good luck with the Pilot Iroshizuku inks. IIRC, Shin-kai is among the drier of the series, so you may do better with some of the others.

[peroride]

I'm on an same-brand pen-and-ink kick, but is an exception of consistency:

 

Pretty much these two have fed my black CU (M)

• Pilot 100th Anniversary Hotei-son
• Namiki Black

Not sure why, but I seem to get more con-70 aeration bubbling with the Iroshizuku Hotei-son but writing performance is not affected.

 

 

[gerigo]

Many Japanese inks from pen makers are quite lubricated because their nibs run much finer. Many of Sailors inks are fairly to significantly lubricated. See the various reviews here. Sailor Okuyama, Souten or Yamadori are quite popular inks because they are fairly saturated and quite lubricated.
Japanese inks to avoid because they are drier include:
- Platinum black series. These are all on the drier side because they are all iron gall inks.

- Inks that are very pale and light, and prized for the chroma shifting qualities. These have to be formulated to have less dye so they tend to be on the drier end. Don't go for the Sailor 1XX studio inks.

In general the more concentrated and darker the ink, the more lubricated it is. The lighter, more shading it is, the drier it will be. There are of course exceptions but this has served me well.

If you like lubricated inks, you cal also try ink from De Atramentis. Their Pacific Blue is a very nice color and is one of the most lubricated blues I know.

[dragondazd]

Try samples of pilot iroshizuku and sailor manyo. Plenty of great blueish inks there. Also sailor shikiori and taccia. I'm a big fan of saior Yama dori and taccia sabimidori myself. 

 

I haven't tried noodler's eel inks before but I am sure many here have.

 

Do you want dark blue? Greenish blue? Blue-blue? Purple blue? 

 

There are lots of great choices. They still might not fully compensate for your feedback.

 

[dragondazd]

Oh! I have a bottle of Monteverde ocean noir coming. Might be an option for you.

 

Look for inks that are described as having a "wet flow". They tend to have the smoother feeling, smoother than water ironically.

[David0966]

On 5/12/2022 at 2:44 AM, gerigo said:

 

If you like lubricated inks, you cal also try ink from De Atramentis. Their Pacific Blue is a very nice color and is one of the most lubricated blues I know.

Are you saying that De Atramentis is one of the most lubricated inks?   Any what are the typical cautions about using it?

My apologies to others who have posted, I been busy and not had time to go through all responses.

Thanks, David

[gerigo]

SOME of the De Atramentis Inks are very wet. I have Pacific Blue, and it made a Platinum medium write like an extra broad. Here's a table that InesF put together. Please note there are nay De Atramentis ink in the wet section.

 

[David0966]

Thank you all.

 

Am currently, well, pre-occupied by trying to improve my handwriting.........and in doing so, have not had any concerns w the nib I spoke of above.  

 

So, my issue will come back around, I'm sure--but for now, it's on the back burner.

 

David

[Sathyafpaddict]

Congratulations on the Pilot Custom Urushi acquisition !! I became the very happy and proud owner of a vermillion Pilot Custom Urushi recently and love its M nib. What I have found most striking about the nib is how it brings out the shading properties of the ink. I have used Lamy Crystal Amazonite and Waterman Inspired Blue in it and have enjoyed the writing experience, and the shading it brings out in the writing. The springy nib is just super-awesome!!

[David0966]

Excellent Sathyafpaddict-I have found that I press too hard on the nib.   Shading?  I'll have to investigate!

 

Thanks, David