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De Atramentis - Artist ink - Dark Red


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Artist inks are made with nanoparticles fountain pens, brushes etc.  to paint and draw. Inks are lightfast and waterproof. However, when I contacted De Atramentis they told me that Document ink is more lightfast than Artist line. 

The Artist Dark Red ink looks especially nice on white paper. 

TR 68gr paper - Photo in direct sunlight - Fude nib.

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same text scan (text is famous French renaissance poem/ pavane by Thoinot Arbeau, you can listen to the music here)

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Hammermill paper - 90 - Medium nib

 

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HP 32

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Rhodia - Medium nib and  Ahab flex

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Dry time on TR 68gr paper is very long, as you can see. But it is acceptable on Rhodia (45 seconds). If the paper is absorbent it's almost immediate. 

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Unlike cellulose reactive inks, this one preforms fairly good on cheep/ thin paper. However, cellulose reactive inks dry much faster. 

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The bottles are different from the typical De Atramentis bottles (photo curtesy of Jane Blundell)

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When I was preparing my swatches, I thought both Document and Artist inks are the same, as you can see below.large.Comparaison.jpeg.3993e5d5086bea4a95bf0ba119fccefc.jpeg

 

But in practice they are dissimilar in colour and behavior. Document Dark Red is lighter and surprisingly drier. 

However, Document and Artist inks can be mixed interchangeably ( I asked from the folks at De Atramentis)

Comparison on Midori.

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Water resistance: (right side was held under water)- Paper Mnemosyne

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·  Pens used: Jinaho 450, Fude/ Medium, Ahab flex

·  Shading: Yes. Depending pen paper combo. But more visible on screen than to the naked eye ;)

·  Ghosting:  None

·  Bleed through: On rare instances. 

·  Flow Rate: Good

·  Lubrication: Decent

·  Nib Dry-out: Not noticed

·  Start-up: Not noticed

·  Saturation:  Dark red

·  Shading Potential: Depending Paper.

·  Sheen: None

·  Spread / Feathering / Woolly Line: Not noticed on paper.  With heavy application there might be some. 

·  Nib Creep / “Crud”: No

·  Staining (pen): Time will say. 

·  Clogging: Only time will say. But none so far. 

·  Water resistance: Excellent

·  Availability: 50 ml bottles 

 

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Thanks for posting this. I have wondered about the difference between the Document line and the Artist inks.  Good info.

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3 hours ago, yazeh said:

Document ink is more lightfast than Artist line.

That's interesting, and the opposite of what I would have expected.  I suppose it's to do with the standards for the document line as opposed to artists' wishes for the Artist line.  Thanks for doing the research on this!

 

3 hours ago, yazeh said:

However, Document and Artist inks can be mixed interchangeably ( I asked from the folks at De Atramentis)

:)  More good research!

 

Thanks for a thorough review, @yazeh!  I imagine this will answer questions for a lot of folks curious about the artist inks (I wasn't sure if they were for FPs or only dip pens, etc.).  Great job. :D

 

ETA: Forgot to mention, I like the color on this one. May have to try it one year...

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Purchased a sample based on the name.  Quite like it, even tho' it's not dark red.  MB 149P, B CI

"Simplicate and add Lightness."

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8 hours ago, InkyColors said:

Thanks for posting this. I have wondered about the difference between the Document line and the Artist inks.  Good info.

Most welcome :)

 

7 hours ago, txomsy said:

Nice review. Makes one long for it.

Thanks. I prefer it to the document ink. 

6 hours ago, Karmachanic said:

Purchased a sample based on the name.  Quite like it, even tho' it's not dark red.  MB 149P, B CI

Lol!

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7 hours ago, LizEF said:

That's interesting, and the opposite of what I would have expected.  I suppose it's to do with the standards for the document line as opposed to artists' wishes for the Artist line.  Thanks for doing the research on this!

A pleasure :)

 

7 hours ago, LizEF said:

 

:)  More good research!

 

Thanks for a thorough review, @yazeh!  I imagine this will answer questions for a lot of folks curious about the artist inks (I wasn't sure if they were for FPs or only dip pens, etc.).  Great job. :D

 

🙏No they work for almost everything. Ink is viscous like most nano inks. 

7 hours ago, LizEF said:

 

ETA: Forgot to mention, I like the color on this one. May have to try it one year...

That's a first :D

 

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Thank you for sharing this great review.

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Great review which harvests great replies! I knew that the artist line is less "sturdy" than the doc series (and, interestingly, each line has 19 representatives), but didn't know that one line was mixable with the other.

I love this colour itself, as it reminds me of corals (like there used to be in the Great Barrier Reef), red bricks, and blood. No, I don't see any other connection(s) between those three items.

Life is too short to drink bad wine (Goethe)

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