Which Pilot is this??

[parapadakis]

Hello, (and apologies to those who may have seen me post this on FB as well).

 

I just bought this pen, which appears to be a Pilot (gold-tones cap says "PILOT", and the barrel has a faint "HB-28" imprint. It's a cartridge pen, but normal pilot converters/cartridges don't fit (too wide) nor do standard international of Parker cartridges (too narrow)). As you can see from the photos the section, feed, and semi-hooded nib are quite distinctive, and it does not look like the usual Elite-style nib units. (apologies, the pictures were taken as I received it, before I cleaned the pen...)

 

I would be grateful for any suggestions!!

 

Thanks

George

 

 

 

 

[inkstainedruth]

Pilot makes several different converters, so I'm not sure what you are calling "standard".  I know that Metropolitans take Con-B converters, and the Vanishing Points and Decimos take Con-40 converters (don't remember offhand what is in my Falcon).

You might try contacting the UK distributor (whatever sub-company that is for where you are; in the US it's Pilot-USA) or even Pilot directly.  They might be able to tell you what the pen is, and also which converter to use.

Sorry I can't be more help.  

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth'

 

ETA: I also have a pen that was marked "Pilot" on the nib and converter, but which apparently was made in Korea for the Korean market.

[parapadakis]

1 hour ago, inkstainedruth said:

not sure what you are calling "standard"

Thanks Ruth. By "normal" Pilot converter or cartridge, I mean the width that fits a VP, or an Elite or a E95S. These are too wide for this pen. And by Standard I mean standard international cartridges, not Pilot.

 

Also, I know that there were Pilot Elites made locally, specifically for the Korean market (under license from Pilot). These were of a different quality than the standard Pilot ones, and I believe they had steel nibs too)

[liubrian]

Your pen likely takes Pilot's long-discontinued double spare cartridges.

 

A relevant thread: 

 

The photos don't load on FPN but are visible in the French version of the thread here: http://www.stylo-plume.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7296.

 

 

[PithyProlix]

8 hours ago, liubrian said:

Your pen likely takes Pilot's long-discontinued double spare cartridges.

 

A relevant thread: 

 

The photos don't load on FPN but are visible in the French version of the thread here: http://www.stylo-plume.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7296.

 

 

 

Wow - wonderful - thanks for sharing! 

[stan]

On 2/22/2022 at 7:09 AM, PithyProlix said:

 

Wow - wonderful - thanks for sharing! 

Or CON-W converter.

[awa54]

I own this model (no idea what it was called though) in black (GG 19), green (GF 06) and pink/red (GE 24), all three take the double spares cartridge or CON-W converter.  The green and pink ones were NOS and came with two unfilled cartridges and a metal sleeve to hold them back to back.

 

There are workarounds to modify modern converters to fit these older pens, the easiest involves having an original "double spare" cartridge to use for parts: the mouth can be carefully cut off and glued inside the mouth of a standard Pilot converter.  Also the sac bushings from some older switch fill models seem to fit the double spare feed and can press fit inside a standard Pilot CON-20/40/50/B, it's not really a precision solution though and requires a donor pen that will be rendered useless in the process.

 

*very* occasionally CON-Ws show up on Ebay, but I haven't seen one since just before COVID started.  It has been alleged that Pilot makes small batches of them from time to time and the one I bought from a Japanese Ebay seller was delivered in modern Pilot packaging, but they seem to be uncommon at best ...certainly outside Japan.