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Montblanc 144 and age determination and remove nib.


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Hi All! I am a student who wrote with the same FP for many years. However, I wanted something new, so I decided to trade pens so that I could afford it and switch pens more often. I recently bought two Montblancs 144s. The price was good, but I have a few questions regarding the age, nib size and serial number.

 

1. How can I determen how old my pen is, even if there is no serial number.

2. I want to clean the pen a bit better, but I am not sure how to remove the nib. There is also not a good Youtube video that shows me that. Any ideas?

3. My pen has no serial number. I don't directly suspect the pen to be fake, but I am also not sure what the reason could be and if it's normal.

 

Attached some pics for reference and age determination. Thank you all very much for your help in advance!

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Hello!  I purchased a burgundy Montblanc 144R for my wife in 1986 and it is quite similar to your black 144.  Her pen does not have a serial number but "Germany" is inscribed on the clip ring--like your pen. The single-tone 14K/585 nib on your pen is like the nib on my wife's pen so I believe your 144 is authentic. Later versions do have a serial number on the clip band and the ink converter for the later versions is threaded and has a spring weight inside to help gravity move ink to the feed nipple.  The early converter was a push-in unit and had no weight inside. It is inscribed "MONT" "BLANC" "GERMANY" with the words beginning with "MONT" over "BLANC" which is over "GERMANY."  Also, the later version of the 144 had a two-tone 14K nib. 

 

Regarding nib removal, I don't believe that is necessary because I have had good results from soaking the nib section and flushing it.  For a long time, my wife used Montblanc blue-black ink which, at the time, contained iron gall, I believe.  The nib got quite clogged with the blue-black ink so I soaked it in Speedball Pen Cleaner (available on Amazon). It is formulated for fountain pens and is quite gentle. Be sure not to get a cleaner for technical pens since it would be too harsh and could damage the finish of the section.

 

I soaked the nib unit for about 30 minutes in the Speedball liquid and then flushed the nib & feed with one of the typical, bleach-based pen flushes--like Monteverde-- that are widely available. Next, I flushed the nib unit with water. I was successful in thoroughly cleaning the nib & feed, and all the old, dried ink was removed.

 

I hope this information is helpful.

 

Regards, Robert

 

 

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Thanks Robert, that is indeed very helpfull :). Will look for the equipment online so that I can use that technique too. Thank you very much for you extensive reply :)

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As Robert Alan noted, there is no need to remove the nib on your pen. A simple and thorough rinse will do the job.

They're nice little pens with lovely nibs, so enjoy it!

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On 2/11/2022 at 5:31 PM, Robert Alan said:

Hello!  I purchased a burgundy Montblanc 144R for my wife in 1986 and it is quite similar to your black 144.  Her pen does not have a serial number but "Germany" is inscribed on the clip ring--like your pen. The single-tone 14K/585 nib on your pen is like the nib on my wife's pen so I believe your 144 is authentic. Later versions do have a serial number on the clip band and the ink converter for the later versions is threaded and has a spring weight inside to help gravity move ink to the feed nipple.  The early converter was a push-in unit and had no weight inside. It is inscribed "MONT" "BLANC" "GERMANY" with the words beginning with "MONT" over "BLANC" which is over "GERMANY."  Also, the later version of the 144 had a two-tone 14K nib. 

 

Regarding nib removal, I don't believe that is necessary because I have had good results from soaking the nib section and flushing it.  For a long time, my wife used Montblanc blue-black ink which, at the time, contained iron gall, I believe.  The nib got quite clogged with the blue-black ink so I soaked it in Speedball Pen Cleaner (available on Amazon). It is formulated for fountain pens and is quite gentle. Be sure not to get a cleaner for technical pens since it would be too harsh and could damage the finish of the section.

 

I soaked the nib unit for about 30 minutes in the Speedball liquid and then flushed the nib & feed with one of the typical, bleach-based pen flushes--like Monteverde-- that are widely available. Next, I flushed the nib unit with water. I was successful in thoroughly cleaning the nib & feed, and all the old, dried ink was removed.

 

I hope this information is helpful.

 

Regards, Robert

 

 

I should have said, "ammonia-based" pen flushes, rather than "bleach-based" pen flushes.

/Robert

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