Question on Lamy 2k B/BB -> Round nose CI nib

[j.a.j.]

Hello,

 

Can somebody please confirm that Lamy 2k gold nibs ground to CI have considerably less feedback than steel nibs on Safari, Aion etc? 

 

I am planning to order Lamy 2K B/BB which would be ground to Round nose CI with about 0.9 – 1.0 linewidth. I quite like Lamy Aion with stock 1.1 nib but find that for me it has a bit too much feedback. I much prefer Pilot's small god nibs which are splendid smooth nails. (Also, i would like a bit more ink so i'd prefer 2K over Aion with LZ-55 > -> CI.)

 

Also, does anybody have insight on should i order a B or BB for 0.9 – 1.0 Round nose CI?

[Bo Bo Olson]

1.0 = B as far as I know.

What puzzles me is a CI; Cursive Italic is not a round nose, but a sharp stub.

Not quite as sharp as Italic, but sharper than a regular stub.

 

One could go to Richard Binder's site, and look at that section of nib shape, fro stub, CI and Italic.

[j.a.j.]

Round nose CI is a bit of a mix between stub & CI. It’s foot is vertically thin like Classic Italic and Cursive Italic but horizontally it’s slightly more rounded and forgiving than Cursive Italic. Line variation should be a bit closer to CI than stub although i do not have personal experience.

 

Not sure how established this term is but at least some nibmeisters use it, including Mike Masuyama. My understanding is that it requires larger nib to start with than normal CI. 

[Bo Bo Olson]

Good, another new thing to know.

 

I have a lot of factory stubs. Mostly German semi-flex, but have a '36 Canadian factory BB stub nib in a '39 Parker Vac, and a Australian Sheaffer Snorkel BB stub in a maxi-semi-flex nib. Swan made many flex rates so both Parker (Have a English Jr. Duofold semi-flex)  and Sheaffer had to expand their pallet to compete with Swan.

 

I have only one CI made from a nail OB 1990 Lamy Persona , by Pendelton Brown. His writing, not my Rooster Scratch.

 

Francis made me a butter smooth 1.0/B stub out of a 605 semi-nail BB.

[sansenri]

On 1/18/2022 at 12:45 PM, j.a.j. said:

Hello,

 

Can somebody please confirm that Lamy 2k gold nibs ground to CI have considerably less feedback than steel nibs on Safari, Aion etc? 

 

I am planning to order Lamy 2K B/BB which would be ground to Round nose CI with about 0.9 – 1.0 linewidth. I quite like Lamy Aion with stock 1.1 nib but find that for me it has a bit too much feedback. I much prefer Pilot's small god nibs which are splendid smooth nails. (Also, i would like a bit more ink so i'd prefer 2K over Aion with LZ-55 > -> CI.)

 

Also, does anybody have insight on should i order a B or BB for 0.9 – 1.0 Round nose CI?

 

I don't quite get your question.

What do you mean here by feedback?

If by feedback you mean "feeling the nib as it writes" in the sense of smoothness of the nib, degree of feeling the paper, that can change dramatically if the nib is ground to CI... it will depend on who does the grinding and how.

 

Lamy 2000 gold nibs are not nails (note), and in general they are very smooth, no feedback. At least that is my experience.

But if you have it ground the whole thing may change, ask who does the grinding the level of smoothness you want...

[j.a.j.]

Lamy 1.1 does not have any tipping. My assumption is that 2K's B/BB nib with tipping that is ground to CI should offer less feedback as it should be smoother?

 

Thank you for the notice on 2K nibs not being nails. Need to read about the firmness from reviews to get idea to which nibs they compare.

[j.a.j.]

On 1/19/2022 at 11:32 PM, Bo Bo Olson said:

I have only one CI made from a nail OB 1990 Lamy Persona , by Pendelton Brown.

 

That is a very lovely nib! Great looking line variation!

[Bo Bo Olson]

2 hours ago, j.a.j. said:

Pendelton Brown.

did it...and it's his writing.

 

I had it out a long time, and seldom used it.**

Black Titanium oxide does not play well with other finishes so it was all by it's self instead of being in a pen cup.

 

**One knows one has too many pens, when such a nib gets too little play time.

 

A second picture taken by PB.

 

He has good hand writing.

I'm too lazy to have any.

 

I'm pretty sure my 1.5 Joy's (long tailed Safari) nib had some tipping, just tight.

Was wrong.

Esterbrook folded steel 1XXX and was good for some 1 year of constant use. The better steel 2xxx for 1 1/2-2 years.

Some cheap chinese pens use folded steel also.

 

My Safari/Joy is not folded steel, but shows how little I've used it. There is no wear. I like it at 1.5 so I can see my mistakes easier when attempting stiff nib italic calligraphy.

 

The main thing is a 1.5 or 1.2 new nib will cost @ $8.00...depending on how much you are really going to use it...a year, two years...or like me almost never.

At $8.00 it's not worth worrying about if the nib is plain steel or not.