Pelikan 200 nibs

[Namx3]

The mordern Pelikan m200 nib is good for grind a Needlepoint nib. I got three m200. I was sell it. I have now 4 pens . Pelikan m805 streseman, Pelikan m400 red strip, Pelikan 400nn and a Waldmann Tango.  The rest of my Pen i was sell it.  Before i have 11 pens. Most of them are Vintage. Example 2 Pelikan 400 , 1 400 is Tortoiseshell Brown the other is green strip.

11 pens is for me too much i never use all of them.

[Bo Bo Olson]

On 10/12/2021 at 8:58 AM, Dip n Scratch said:

Maybe the perceived difference is down to how the way in which the different tip shape of the older steel nib runs across the paper as much as anything else.

Vintage stubbed '50-65, semi-vintage tear drop shaped write with a clean line. and the older 200 nibs.....

 

If one has a big honking magnifying glass**, good paper and a nice dry ink, it's easy to see if the writing line is clean or imprecise because of the round ball shaped bottom of the nib....the lack of character, as it wallows through the paper.

 

**Good eyes and the inked paper held close to the nose works too.

[Namx3]

2 hours ago, Bo Bo Olson said:

Vintage stubbed '50-65, semi-vintage tear drop shaped write with a clean line. and the older 200 nibs.....

 

If one has a big honking magnifying glass**, good paper and a nice dry ink, it's easy to see if the writing line is clean or imprecise because of the round ball shaped bottom of the nib....the lack of character, as it wallows through the paper.

 

**Good eyes and the inked paper held close to the nose works too.

You mean the m200 oldstyle  ? Before i was sell my 3 m200 i have got both 1 oldstyle ,2 mordern m200. The m200 modern nib is stiffer than the oldstyle nib.

My m400 red is mod it have a ebonite feed form a Pelikan 400 and the bi color nib. I like the lock of the bi color nib more.

[Bo Bo Olson]

I like the feel of the mono-tone  semi-vintage regular flex nibs more. Pelikan '82-97.

 

The 2 tone if 14 K...I think came in after 1997 and if so, they are semi-nails (rather a hard nib) with wide fat double ball tips. One ball above the nib, one ball under with a fat tip in between the two balls.

 

With tear drop shaped nibs in gold or a bit later steel from '82-97 Pelikans are nice springy regular flex....

The monotone is regular flex is soft +.

Semi-flex is soft ++

The rarer maxi-semi-flex is soft +++.

All three of that flex set write with a nice clean line.

 

The modern 400's nib is stiffer with a fatter nib and more butter smooth...........and IMO less character and no clean line....it can't write in a clean line, in it's a fat ball.

 

Lots of folks like the butter smooth of a modern '98-now butter smooth nib.........I do think everyone should have 'one'.

 

But tastes are different or there wouldn't be a Burger King and a MacDonnalds.

 

............snide remark.... I think those modern nibs make great nibs to stub or CI.

 

I do like the smoothness level just under butter smooth, that I call good and smooth.

 

About what the old pens had new as far as I can remember..where there is a tad of feel of paper and not so buttery smooth slippery that the nibs are hard to control on slick papers Rhoda or Clairefontaine Triomphe.

 

It's still quite smooth, just not butter smooth..

From my understanding Butter Smooth is best on poor papers. A CI wouldn't be good on such papers...80g copy paper.

 

I do have a few butter smooth pens, but don't reach for them all that much. I do have good to better papers.

 

I should try a Butter Smooth pen of mine on classic rough Laid or linen effect paper...I may have but forgot if it was better than good and smooth.

 

 I would have to take 3 Butter smooth vs 3 good and smooth nibs.

After picking which ink would write best on classic rough paper.

The question is will butter smooth do better on rough paper than good and smooth?

 

Gee, have to see if I still got some poor paper left some where. I might not. I went over to 90g copy paper a while back, so my editing scribbles shaded.

 

[Namx3]

Me personal i like a nib with feedback. my Pelikan m400 in red it coming back tomorrow i can pick it up from the poststation. It was 3 month away for a nib grinding to a Italic nib. I like the feel of the old Pelikan 400 nib. But i like the design of the bi color nib more. How it look like. Every modern pen i ever own. I dont like it out of the box. I need a custom nib grind . After that is ok for me

[uaexemarat]

I can confirm that the current M200/M205 nibs are #5 nibs. They're just too tightly in the collar to easily get out

the nib is in a fake MB with a #5 nib as standard