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On IG, a seller wrote "Hongdian began to make their grinding nib"

I asked the seller "what is a grinding nib?", the answer was a link to his Aliexpress shop. He never likes to answer questions - which I don't like.

The pen is called Aerospace A3 from Hongdian.

 

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I can't read that script, but the nib looks very much like an architect grind to me.

Vintage. Cursive italic. Iron gall.

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Hi  @mke

 

HongDian has some pens to which   they list the Nib as  size   14K,   #32

Do you have an idea what does "#32" nib size  means  on the Pilot Scale for nib sizes or  the Bock scale ?

 

 

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5 hours ago, mke said:

@samasry

Sorry, no idea.

Ask them - but I would be positively surprised if you get an answer.

 

Thank you for the reply

Yes, I already asked and they answered that they did not know. 

I thought  you knew as I recall   that I knew about this pen from you  :)

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/193522871684?_trksid=p2047675.m570.l5999&_trkparms=gh1g%3DI193522871684.N36.S2.typeWATCH_ITEM_ENDING_SOON.R5.TR11.R5.TR11

 

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Brand: HongDian

Model: A1845

Nib: 14K Gold Extra Fine / Fine Nib #32

 

 

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@samasry

You asked the seller? Sellers never know anything. I meant asking the maker Hongdian.

As a normal Jowo/Bock-type #6 nib is often described as a #35 nib, I would guess, the Hongdian nib is slightly smaller (length). "35mm is the length of the nib from tip to base. Nibs of this length normally have a 6mm base width making it a #6 nib."

 

I ordered and paid that pen (shiny section, EF nib). Then got the message: "So sorry, this combination is not available anymore. Can we sell you something else instead?".

So, I cancelled the order and the seller (at least) refunded immediately.

 

Caution: they certainly don't have this pen in stock. While they said they have it, it later turned out that they tried to order it from Hongdian after I ordered the pen. And the stock of Hongdian was nearly empty. 4 months ago, Hongdian only had the pen with matte section and F nib. There is a possibility that Hongdian re-produced that pen. This, I don't know.

 

 

 

 

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A member of the Fountain Pen Network-Phillipines made the post below. From the comments I gather the nib is a Naginata type. As I understand it these nibs are  the opposite of a stub nib as the horizontal lines they produces are thicker than the vertical lines. Also the line width on Naginata nibs varies with the pen's perpendicular angle to the page.

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2 hours ago, mke said:

@samasry

You asked the seller? Sellers never know anything. I meant asking the maker Hongdian.

As a normal Jowo/Bock-type #6 nib is often described as a #35 nib, I would guess, the Hongdian nib is slightly smaller (length). "35mm is the length of the nib from tip to base. Nibs of this length normally have a 6mm base width making it a #6 nib."

 

I ordered and paid that pen (shiny section, EF nib). Then got the message: "So sorry, this combination is not available anymore. Can we sell you something else instead?".

So, I cancelled the order and the seller (at least) refunded immediately.

 

Caution: they certainly don't have this pen in stock. While they said they have it, it later turned out that they tried to order it from Hongdian after I ordered the pen. And the stock of Hongdian was nearly empty. 4 months ago, Hongdian only had the pen with matte section and F nib. There is a possibility that Hongdian re-produced that pen. This, I don't know.

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, that looks dicey enough for me to run away from this  pen :) 

I appreciate the heads up.  Thanks and Have a great weekend. 

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2 hours ago, OCArt said:

From the comments I gather the nib is a Naginata type.

 

 

Sailor's Naginata label (or series) covers a range of various specialty nib styles and geometries. If you look at the marketing images and can understand the Chinese text, the tipping on the HongDian nib in question is ground similarly to the Naginata Togi nibs, after which Aurora Goccia (and I think Santini Italia's ‘Chinese calligraphy’) nibs are also fashioned. 

I endeavour to be frank and truthful in what I write, show or otherwise present, when I relate my first-hand experiences that are not independently verifiable; and link to third-party content where I can, when I make a claim or refute a statement of fact in a thread. If there is something you can verify for yourself, I entreat you to do so, and judge for yourself what is right, correct, and valid. I may be wrong, and my position or say-so is no more authoritative and carries no more weight than anyone else's here.

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