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2 hours ago, hari317 said:

Thank you. Sagar can you share a pic? I have bought some Duo but box says 71JB. Price list says 21 Duo so I am curious about actual duo. 

As far as I am concerned,this is called Duo. I didn't buy it. If this is the same you bought please share some pics.

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1 hour ago, Sagarb said:

As far as I am concerned,this is called Duo. I didn't buy it. If this is the same you bought please share some pics.

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Yes. The 71JB CC and this was all described as DUO. But box says 71JB. Anyway here are some pics for you: 

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/355947-airmail-wality-71jbrcc/?do=findComment&comment=4465635


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Enjoying this 71J with a KW BB STUB paired with an Ebonite Sheaffer finned feeder. Glorious flow. Zero burps. 
 

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On 9/19/2021 at 12:12 AM, hari317 said:

Enjoying this 71J with a KW BB STUB paired with an Ebonite Sheaffer finned feeder. Glorious flow. Zero burps. 
 

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Great pics  I did not know Sheaffer ebonite feeds existed. Thanks for sharing.

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8 hours ago, cvk said:

Great pics  I did not know Sheaffer ebonite feeds existed. Thanks for sharing.

Thank you. Yes they exist in a huge variety. One of which fits Indian pens well. This is how the feeders look: 

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2 minutes ago, hari317 said:

Thank you. Yes they exist in a huge variety. One of which fits Indian pens well. This is how the feeders look: 

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wow that is great! what is the name of this feed that can fit in airmail 69T and other Indian pens? 

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33 minutes ago, cvk said:

wow that is great! what is the name of this feed that can fit in airmail 69T and other Indian pens? 

There is no specific name for this as such. You need to ask if the diameter is 6.35mm. These feeders were found on early Sheaffer School pens IIRC. 


 

I have shown some other feeds that are also usable on most Indian EDs. 
https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/361066-finned-feeders-for-indian-eye-dropper-filled-pens/
 

 

 

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3 hours ago, hari317 said:

Thank you. Yes they exist in a huge variety. One of which fits Indian pens well. This is how the feeders look: 

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These are lovely feeders. I have the plastic Sheaffer feeds. Not sure if Gama sells these feeders too. 

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2 minutes ago, K Singh said:

These are lovely feeders. I have the plastic Sheaffer feeds. ..

They perform well. Plastic ones are superb too, have you used them yet?

2 minutes ago, K Singh said:

Not sure if Gama sells these feeders too. 

you can always enquire.

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21 minutes ago, hari317 said:

Plastic ones are superb too, have you used them yet?

Yes only started using them recently. Haven't ran the pen out of ink yet, so will have to see how well it handles burping.

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1 minute ago, K Singh said:

Yes only started using them recently. Haven't ran the pen out of ink yet, so will have to see how well it handles burping.

Which pen have you installed it in, with which nib? a good way to check is to fill just very little ink. That's how I test.

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6 minutes ago, hari317 said:

Which pen have you installed it in, with which nib? a good way to check is to fill just very little ink. That's how I test.

I have put it in my Gama Supreme with the Gama nib.

 

Yes, that's a good way to test for burping.

 

The good thing about these Jumbo pens like Supreme is that we can go on writing for many many pages without having to worry about burping.

 

I actually counted the number of pages I wrote with Gama Supreme in one ink filling. It wrote about 121 A5 sized pages, and the burping only started after the 100 pages mark. So a good long writing experience with it 

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54 minutes ago, K Singh said:

Yes only started using them recently. Haven't ran the pen out of ink yet, so will have to see how well it handles burping.

I have done this too with 2 different wality 69Ts. I wrote it dry multiple times - no burping. All thanks to some great suggestions by Hari sir here. I heard Gama pens need knockout block to remove feeder. How did you put in the sheaffer feeder and how would you remove it ?

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37 minutes ago, K Singh said:

I have put it in my Gama Supreme with the Gama nib.

 

Yes, that's a good way to test for burping.

 

The good thing about these Jumbo pens like Supreme is that we can go on writing for many many pages without having to worry about burping.

 

I actually counted the number of pages I wrote with Gama Supreme in one ink filling. It wrote about 121 A5 sized pages, and the burping only started after the 100 pages mark. So a good long writing experience with it 

 

That's wonderful, I hardly get to write much nowadays.

 

 

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I have done this too with 2 different wality 69Ts. I wrote it dry multiple times - no burping. All thanks to some great suggestions by Hari sir here. I heard Gama pens need knockout block to remove feeder. How did you put in the sheaffer feeder and how would you remove it ?

 

Invest in a good knockout block or make one. A tight fitting nib and feed is a good thing. When you are removing the feeder from a Sheaffer School pen or No Nonsense, you have no option but to pull the nib feed out. With some practice you will develop the technique of pulling straight out without bending or damaging the fins. Use a pair of latex examination gloves for grip. Don't wear them, just use them as a gripping sheet.

When mounted on an Indian ED you can knockout the Sheaffer feed. But you have the tail to take care of. So you need a suitable hollow rod to use as a punch. Never use a hammer, buy a nylon head mallet. Hope this helps.

 

 

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23 minutes ago, cvk said:

I have done this too with 2 different wality 69Ts. I wrote it dry multiple times - no burping. All thanks to some great suggestions by Hari sir here. I heard Gama pens need knockout block to remove feeder. How did you put in the sheaffer feeder and how would you remove it ?

Good to hear that there is no burping.

 

Yes I have heard from others too that Gama nibs are fitted very tightly, but mine came out very easily. Please note I bought my Gama only 2-3 months back, so maybe they have changed something in their new pens hopefully.

 

My Gama feed and Sheaffer feed both come out easily, and yet are tight enough to not leak any ink.

 

16 minutes ago, hari317 said:

That's wonderful, I hardly get to write much nowadays.

Thank you. If there is nothing else to write, I do a lot of journaling, so that helps to get some writing done.

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@cvk Just tried removing the feed from another Gama - Kuyil - which was also a recent buy. It is very tight as you mentioned.

I guess I was just lucky with the Supreme. Lol.

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5 minutes ago, K Singh said:

@cvk Just tried removing the feed from another Gama - Kuyil - which was also a recent buy. It is very tight as you mentioned.

I guess I was just lucky with the Supreme. Lol.

I think you are lucky with the Kuyil. Nibs and feeds are not designed to be pulled out by the end user who does not have the tools. 

 

When you have a tight fit and are using a simple ebonite feeder, the only way for air to exchange is through the feed channel. Here exchange only takes place as ink is consumed during writing or evaporation. 

 

If the feeder is a loose fit, there necessarily has to be air gaps surrounding the feed. this allows air to exchange and the pen to blob and burp.

 

So a tight fit ensures that the only air path is through the feed and no bypass path exists. This is why we apply silicone grease to section threads as well. An air path there acts as a feed air inlet bypass and ink drips out the feed.

 

Knockout blocks and hollow punch are available on this page.

ITEM #D1 and ITEM #D-16-P

 

https://pentooling.com/files.html

 

or you can make or get made something similar.

 

How to insert nibs and feeds into tight sections is another topic, I will post something on it. I will have to suggest something that is easily available in the local market.

 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, hari317 said:

I think you are lucky with the Kuyil. Nibs and feeds are not designed to be pulled out by the end user who does not have the tools. 

 

Thank you for the detailed info. This was very useful.

 

I haven't faced any problem with any of my pens so far, but good to know the right way to do things. Thank you for the item details too. 🙏

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