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She's An Odd One... Pen Identification


ClaireRonalds

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Hello!

 

I've got an interesting pen identification for us today. I've been digging through the catalogs and other sites (special thanks to Wahlnut for the fantastic history posts) trying to nail down a range of years this pen would be produced.

 

I'm in the process of restoring this pen (I haven't cracked it open yet, so if anyone knows what sac size I'll need I would be most grateful). Here are some vital statistics:

4 3/8" long, closed

Colonial style.

Cap and barrel marked both marked "18 1/8", and "PAT. JAN.25.04"

Roller Clip marked "U.S. PATENT 14K 1/10"

Nib marked "WAHL TEMPOINT PEN 2" and has some flex to it (writing sample enclosed)

 

The weird bit, is that (at least from my Googling) this pen seems to be one of the All-Metal variety, and I can't find any evidence of the All-Metal pens being sold with the roller clips, or with a #2 nib. It seems the ringtops were more popular, and that the clips were usually the flatter, more standard Wahl Eversharp clip.

 

While not directly related to the pen, I've also got a Wahl Eversharp ringtop pencil marked gold filled that's likely from the same family member, that is 3 7/8" long and in the Checkerboard pattern.

 

Thanks in advance!

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I checked the late 1920s Wahl catalogs and ads that I have and I indeed can not find an all metal Wahl pen with a roller clip.

But this auction presents a pen that looks quite similar to your pen except for the pattern: www.ebay.com/itm/124375304692

The seller describes it as "Cool transitional Model, made when Wahl Acquired Boston Safety. Still bears Boston Safety Patent on the barrel. Cool early roller clip, not seen on later Wahl metal pens”:

 

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7 hours ago, joss said:

I checked the late 1920s Wahl catalogs and ads that I have and I indeed can not find an all metal Wahl pen with a roller clip.

But this auction presents a pen that looks quite similar to your pen except for the pattern: www.ebay.com/itm/124375304692

The seller describes it as "Cool transitional Model, made when Wahl Acquired Boston Safety. Still bears Boston Safety Patent on the barrel. Cool early roller clip, not seen on later Wahl metal pens”:

 

 

 

That is very close!!! Thank you for the info! Looks like it'd date from the earlier part of the 20s, then.

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I seem to have a ring top with the same patent marked both on the cap and the barrel and 14 1/8 marked again on both barrel and cap. I got it as a no-name pen just to pull the No:2 Wahl Tempoint nib (which i thought was a replacement nib) to complete another pen. I never considered that it could be a Wahl pen before reading this post. 

 

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Tempoint ended in 1921 so if you are going to the late 20's you aren't going to find it.  In the 1921 catalog this is a 303AG with clip (clips were still very much optional with Wahl at this point but, becoming standard).  The only difference to yours is that they were catalog 14 1/8 and not 18 1/8 but, Wahl offered a lot of variation here as the pencils show a couple 18K rolled gold options.

 

Pen Sac Co suggests a 17 1/2 - 2 1/8 sac for a 2 nib size

 

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From 1921 Eversharp catalogue from internet archives. I'm hoping this is ok to post. if not please let me know and i will delete.

 

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Interestingly 1919 catalogue seems to have the 18k pens but without any reference to clips. Clips are there in 1921 catalogue as an option but only show 14k version . Sadly I don't have access to 1920 catalogue :(1844753977_ScreenShot2021-06-04at8_54_20PM.thumb.png.0a4544873dd350c58d1b40f7824478c9.png

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