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The nib and gripping section ring looks like that on a (now discontinued) Platinum Balance model PGB-3000. Maybe it's a special edition commissioned by the Université de Paris, but I thought it'd split in 1970 into thirteen parts; one of them is Université Paris-Sorbonne, which operated under that name until 2018, but the name doesn't quite match what's on the pen, either.

 

I don't think that S logo stands for Sailor, either. Given the nib was most likely not made in Paris, I'd say the S logo was for Sorbonne; but I just can't place it using Google search right now.

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I just received a couple more pictures. Note that the cap ring does not match the PGB-3000. Also he has some Sailor cartridges with it and he says they fit.

I think I've seen this feed before but I can't place it. Reminds me of a Pilot feed. I've also think I've seen that clip before.

I'm still Googling away ...

 

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5 minutes ago, PithyProlix said:

Note that the cap ring does not match the PGB-3000.

 

Just to be clear, it was obvious from the start that the cap and barrel looks nothing like that on the Platinum Balance. Or any Sailor pen model that I know of, for that matter; nothing about that pen says ‘Sailor’ to me. Identifying the specific model is less important than determining the make.

 

I can't recognise the make of the feed from the underside. The feeds on Pilot MR pens have four narrow lines lengthwise on the underside that don't look like that.

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The nib and feed look like they match a Pilot Celemo. Also note the "1091" stamp on both, which I believe is Pilot's code for the manufacture date. (images below from https://www.peytonstreetpens.com/pilot-namiki-celemo-fountain-pen-black-w-gold-trim-14k-medium-nib-new-old-stock.html)

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I've found a couple others and the caps were printed with "Ile de France Paris Roissy" (see this one, for instance: http://blog.noguchan.lolipop.jp/?eid=934340). Pilot's French office is in Roissy so perhaps this is a France exclusive. (?)

18 minutes ago, mke said:

And the clip - reminds me a little bit of a Pilot Cavalier.

 

Aha! That's where I've seen the clip. I just purchased a Cavalier that's in the mail to me now. 😆 

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So, that's it - your Sailor is a Pilot (Cavalier) - eventually.

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