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andyv108

Greetings. I have a straightforward request for a recommendation(s) regarding ink for Sailor fountain pens. Specifically, a blue or blue-black ink that is safe, reliable, smooth on paper, dries reasonably fast, and works well in a Sailor fountain pen. I tried the "Search" function but it didn't produce any results that were helpful. My computer skills are limited so my wording was probably too vague. In any case, your recommendations are appreciated.

 

Thanks in advance for your response.

 

emiliano

San Antonio, TX 78231

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arcfide

While there are a tone of such inks out there, and most of those inks are going to work very well in your Sailor, you should, IMO, first consider that Sailor makes some of the best inks around, and their black and blue-black standard ink lines are not only affordable, but also very wet, free-flowing, vibrant, professional, and work very well with Sailor pens. They are very well done inks that are very easy to work with, and I can easily recommend them. There are plenty of other inks that you can find that will also work, but starting there will give you a good baseline. 

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What @arcfide said. Whilst it's more blue/green than blue/black, I'm using Yama-dori in my Sailor, and it's a great combo.

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9 hours ago, arcfide said:

While there are a tone of such inks out there, and most of those inks are going to work very well in your Sailor, you should, IMO, first consider that Sailor makes some of the best inks around, and their black and blue-black standard ink lines are not only affordable, but also very wet, free-flowing, vibrant, professional, and work very well with Sailor pens. They are very well done inks that are very easy to work with, and I can easily recommend them. There are plenty of other inks that you can find that will also work, but starting there will give you a good baseline. 

What he said.

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Can't go wrong with Sailor inks. I see you are in San Antonio. Me too! 

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> first consider that Sailor makes some of the best inks around

I didn't know that there is a reliable ranking. How about "first consider that Sailor makes some good inks"?

 

Anyway, while not the brightest blue inks, Sailor Blue and Sailor Blue-Black are reliable inks.  Otherwise, nice blue inks are "Monteverde Horizon Blue" and "Waterman Serenity Blue" which I can recommend. All four are easy to obtain in the US.

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I have a King of Pen Ebonite and a Pro Gear King of Pen (both with a superb 21K nib in M) permanently inked with Iroshizuku Tsuki Yo and Shin Kai respectively. Perfect. No need to change.

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Nurmister

Pilot ink, 100%.

 

If you write a lot, the standard Pilot blue and blue-black in the 350 ml bottles can be had for about 25 USD on ebay.

If you want more interesting variants of blue and blue-black, consider the Pilot iroshizuku line. A wonderful blue-black is the shin-kai.

 

In either case, the inks meet absolutely all of your requirements. Moreover, these inks are relatively water- and fade-resistant, and do not stain plastic, or have strange reactions with common pen materials.

 

This is my conclusion after trying a large number of Japanese and German inks. I use Pilot ink with all of my pens.

 

The topside of a nib is its face, the underside its soul (user readytotalk)

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On 4/8/2021 at 11:36 PM, andyv108 said:

Greetings. I have a straightforward request for a recommendation(s) regarding ink for Sailor fountain pens. Specifically, a blue or blue-black ink that is safe, reliable, smooth on paper, dries reasonably fast, and works well in a Sailor fountain pen. I tried the "Search" function but it didn't produce any results that were helpful. My computer skills are limited so my wording was probably too vague. In any case, your recommendations are appreciated.

 

Thanks in advance for your response.

 

emiliano

San Antonio, TX 78231

 

As others have said, why not Sailor inks?  Their standard blue is dark, and I really should get their blue-black, because I have a few Sailor pens, and love blue-blacks.

 

But I've filled Sailors with Waterman, Pelikan, and Iro, as well...l

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> I use Pilot ink with all of my pens.

While I also like Pilot Iroshizuku inks, I would like to mention that Pilot inks are wet and that leads to problems with many papers if you want to use the backside too.

You really have to search for paper which matches the Pilot inks.

Sailor Blue and Blue-Black are OK with all papers I tested, even the bad ones - if I use a Fine or ExtraFine.

Problems occur if I use a Sailor KoP Medium (similar to a Sailor Broad of the normal series). The number of papers which can be used are reduced.

The recommended "Monteverde Horizon Blue" and "Waterman Serenity Blue" also work well with many of my papers.

 

 

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4 hours ago, mke said:

 

While I also like Pilot Iroshizuku inks, I would like to mention that Pilot inks are wet and that leads to problems with many papers if you want to use the backside too. You really have to search for paper which matches the Pilot inks.

Sailor Blue and Blue-Black are OK with all papers I tested, even the bad ones ...  The recommended "Monteverde Horizon Blue" and "Waterman Serenity Blue" also work well with many of my papers.

 

 

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6 hours ago, mke said:

@Nurmister

> I use Pilot ink with all of my pens.

While I also like Pilot Iroshizuku inks, I would like to mention that Pilot inks are wet and that leads to problems with many papers if you want to use the backside too.

You really have to search for paper which matches the Pilot inks.

Sailor Blue and Blue-Black are OK with all papers I tested, even the bad ones - if I use a Fine or ExtraFine.

Problems occur if I use a Sailor KoP Medium (similar to a Sailor Broad of the normal series). The number of papers which can be used are reduced.

The recommended "Monteverde Horizon Blue" and "Waterman Serenity Blue" also work well with many of my papers.

 

 


Mmm this is a good point, I didn't consider what paper the user had. To specifically talk about what works with Pilot ink, I've found that:

1. Both the regular line and iroshizuku work well on simple, 80 gsm printer paper: no bleed-through. Note I use fine/extra fine nibs only.

2. While the regular line is slightly less wet and "penetrative" than the iroshizuku line, they both certainly show through on paper you'd get in an average big-box store notebook, even with a fine nib.

 

And so if you don't also tune your paper choices, Sailor ink would indeed be better. Pelikan 4001 is another fair option that has reasonable properties and can be found for very cheap in some countries (not sure about the US specifically anymore),  but it is definitely a bit drier than the similarly-priced Waterman ink, which makes a difference if you are using finer Sailor nibs.

 

Try a few inks or even ink samples (can be bought from Goulet pens, for example, on the cheap) and you'll soon figure out what works for you!

 

The topside of a nib is its face, the underside its soul (user readytotalk)

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arcfide

@andyv108 I think it would help if you could indicate what size of nib that you have. For instance, I have a B nib in the KOP that is very wet, and I like it so, which will change the choice of inks and recommendations significantly, as well as your choice of paper, desired level of feedback, flow, &c. 

 

Specifically: 

  • What paper will you be using?
  • What nib are you using?
  • What is your price range?
  • What level of flow/wetness do you want? 
  • What level of lubrication are you looking for? 

 

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