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Ebonite vs. Acrylic Resin in Santini pens



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Karmachanic
10 hours ago, sansenri said:

The colours also differ, from murkier to high contrast

 

As a matte black aficionado I lose out on this, but I may appreciate the finer texture. Something to explore in the future.

"Simplicate and add Lightness."

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12 hours ago, Newton Pens said:

Ebonite costs a LOT more than acrylics.  GOOD ebonite costs A LOT more than that.  German ebonite is the most expensive you can find, then close in price but a little cheaper is Japanese, then a lot lot cheaper is Indian.  Then you have the time it takes to finish the material once it's turned.  Acrylic is easier and quicker to finish than ebonite.  So the price difference based on material is because of those 2 things.

@Newton PensThank you for providing a very informative answer from a pen maker's perspective!👍

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Mysterious Mose

So I decided.  I ordered a Santini Libra Cumberland Gold (Ebonite) with 18kt Gold (F Flexy) nib.  I love the looks of it (based on their photographs) better than acrylic resins.

I'll let you know when I get it.

Dan

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Fountain Pens: Pelikan Souveran M805, Santini Libra Cumberland, Waterman Expert II, Waterman Phileas, Waterman Kultur, Stipula Splash, Sheaffer Sagaris, Sheaffer Prelude, Osmiroid 65, FPR Guru

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26 minutes ago, Mysterious Mose said:

So I decided.  I ordered a Santini Libra Cumberland Gold (Ebonite) with 18kt Gold (F Flexy) nib.  I love the looks of it (based on their photographs) better than acrylic resins.

I'll let you know when I get it.

Dan

 

Very nice 😊.

 

I'm still waiting for mine to be delivered - the latest estimate from UPS is next Thursday.  Apparently there was some strike action in Italy by the courier which held up the collection of my package (and no doubt many others) by a week.

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Estycollector

Ironically, acrylic is the rage in smoke pipe stems over vulcanite or Ebonite. 

"Respect science, respect nature, respect all people (s),"

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Mysterious Mose
1 hour ago, christam said:

 

Very nice 😊.

 

I'm still waiting for mine to be delivered - the latest estimate from UPS is next Thursday.  Apparently there was some strike action in Italy by the courier which held up the collection of my package (and no doubt many others) by a week.

Uh oh.  Let's hope it's only a week delay.

Dan Kalish

 

Fountain Pens: Pelikan Souveran M805, Santini Libra Cumberland, Waterman Expert II, Waterman Phileas, Waterman Kultur, Stipula Splash, Sheaffer Sagaris, Sheaffer Prelude, Osmiroid 65, FPR Guru

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Mysterious Mose
1 hour ago, rookie85 said:

@Mysterious Mose I'm curious have you received your Libra yet? I too am considering one and would be interested in your experience and impressions.

No, I haven't received it yet.  They got it ready and shipped it to me today.  I ordered it April 5, so it took them 11 days (9 working days).  From what people in the Forum said, I expect to receive it in about a week.  

 

I'll let you know when I get it and what my impressions are.

Dan Kalish

 

Fountain Pens: Pelikan Souveran M805, Santini Libra Cumberland, Waterman Expert II, Waterman Phileas, Waterman Kultur, Stipula Splash, Sheaffer Sagaris, Sheaffer Prelude, Osmiroid 65, FPR Guru

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On 4/3/2021 at 6:49 PM, Estycollector said:

Ironically, acrylic is the rage in smoke pipe stems over vulcanite or Ebonite. 

As a long ago pipe-smoker I cannot imagine the unpleasantness of biting an acrylic stem. 

 

Sounds like  a plot from Big Dentistry looking for work!

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11 hours ago, sgphototn said:

As a long ago pipe-smoker I cannot imagine the unpleasantness of biting an acrylic stem. 

 

Sounds like  a plot from Big Dentistry looking for work!

You don't have to bit a stem. 

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1 hour ago, Estycollector said:

You don't have to bit a stem. 

Didn't say you had to. Pipe Smoking

 

I smoked a pipe while working. It had to be held in place by a bite between the teeth. I don't remember any pipe smokers that didn't.

 

Maybe the posh seated in an overstuffed chair who only smoked in drawing rooms while wearing an ascot and velvet smoking jacket as Jeeves drew their bath didn't, but I didn't hang with those types.

 

Maybe Jeeves smoked for them through pursed lips only lightly touching the stem.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

'We live in times where smart people must be silenced so stupid people won't be offended."

 

 

Coaches Struggle With Using Pronouns

 

 

 

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39 minutes ago, sgphototn said:

Didn't say you had to. Pipe Smoking

 

I smoked a pipe while working. It had to be held in place by a bite between the teeth. I don't remember any pipe smokers that didn't.

 

Maybe the posh seated in an overstuffed chair who only smoked in drawing rooms while wearing an ascot and velvet smoking jacket as Jeeves drew their bath didn't, but I didn't hang with those types.

 

Maybe Jeeves smoked for them through pursed lips only lightly touching the stem.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You didn't, but it was implied. 

 

I understand that some like to smoke in all sorts of situations where chomping a stem is the norm, but it would be a mistake to think that the only people who don't are your betters. Or, it isn't a class or uppity thing. 

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21 minutes ago, Estycollector said:

You didn't, but it was implied. 

 

I understand that some like to smoke in all sorts of situations where chomping a stem is the norm, but it would be a mistake to think that the only people who don't are your betters. Or, it isn't a class or uppity thing. 

Your mind 'implied' it; I didn't.

 

Humor seems lost on you. Lighten up.

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26 minutes ago, sgphototn said:

Your mind 'implied' it; I didn't.

 

Humor seems lost on you. Lighten up.

I was thinking of saying the same to you. Go in peace

friend.

 

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Mysterious Mose
On 4/16/2021 at 7:12 PM, Mysterious Mose said:

No, I haven't received it yet.  They got it ready and shipped it to me today.  I ordered it April 5, so it took them 11 days (9 working days).  From what people in the Forum said, I expect to receive it in about a week.  

 

I'll let you know when I get it and what my impressions are.

                The ebonite Santini Libra Cumberland Gold fountain pen arrived in record time.  It was shipped to me on Friday, April 16 and delivered on Monday, April 19, three days later.  That was one business day.  I ordered the pen on April 5, so it took 9 business days to completely manufacture the pen.

                There was a hitch in ordering the pen.  I wanted to charge it on my credit card.  Instead, it was initially paid for partially with my PayPal balance and the rest with the credit card.  Katrina said that could only be rectified by cancelling the order and submitting a new order.  I cancelled the order on April 5 but could not make payment for several days because it took that long for the refund to be processed.  Katrina told me that Santini would start making the pen on April 5 even though they did not yet have my payment.  That was very generous of them.

                The packaging was very pleasant.  It was like a Russian doll.  Each box had within it another box wrapped in black tissue paper.  The outermost box was tied in a ribbon.

                Note that Santini manually tested the pen by writing with it.  They provided the results of that writing.

                I haven’t had the pen long enough to write a complete review, but can give my initial impressions.

                The pen is gorgeous and doesn’t look anything like my other 10 fountain pens.  It is oversized, which I like.  It is actually wider and longer than my Pelikan M805 pen.

                It has a flex nib, and feels soft.  I expect that this nib will take getting used to.  Writing with no pressure feels good and produces a fine line.  Writing with more pressure produces a thicker line.  It does railroad while drawing a fifth line of about 5 ½” each.

                I look forward to using this pen more.

                 

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Dan Kalish

 

Fountain Pens: Pelikan Souveran M805, Santini Libra Cumberland, Waterman Expert II, Waterman Phileas, Waterman Kultur, Stipula Splash, Sheaffer Sagaris, Sheaffer Prelude, Osmiroid 65, FPR Guru

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Mysterious Mose
On 4/19/2021 at 8:57 PM, rookie85 said:

wow that is beautiful. would love to hear how the nib performs.

I think I'm in love.  I got some good practice using it for lessons in a Palmer book.  ("The Palmer Method of Business Writing" by Austin Palmer).  It seems that if I write with no pressure, it's very smooth.  If I apply pressure on the Flexy nib, it makes a scratchy noise and feels a little rough.  Is this what's called "feedback?"

 

I've always wanted my pens to be wet.  My Pelikan M805 and the first high-end pen I had, a Montblanc 146, just glide over the page.  To paraphrase a Bix Beiderbecke song, "I never cared for feedback, but this pen has feedback, and that's my weakness now."

Dan Kalish

 

Fountain Pens: Pelikan Souveran M805, Santini Libra Cumberland, Waterman Expert II, Waterman Phileas, Waterman Kultur, Stipula Splash, Sheaffer Sagaris, Sheaffer Prelude, Osmiroid 65, FPR Guru

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Well, it shouldn't feel scratchy.  The classic feedback is from Aurora nibs.  They do not just glide over the page, but rather tell you exactly where you are by there being just a tad more resistance to the paper than, say, a Montblanc nib.

 

Hope that helps -

 

Erick

 

Using right now:

Beena Lincoln "F" nib running Jacques Herbin Rouge Hematite

Parker Duofold "F" nib running Pelikan Königsblau

Leonardo Officina Italiana Pura "F" nib running Diamine Autumn Oak

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