Sailor KOP Pro Gear vs. KOP 1911

[WLSpec]

I'm thinking of making a grail pen purchase of a Sailor KOP soon, and I may want to have custom urushi work done on the pen since it will be plain black resin. However, I'm trying to decide between the resin 1911/profit and the Pro-Gear models. I slightly prefer the look of the PG - I like the anchor on the finial, and the cap band looks nice. However, I'm a little worried that it will be too short for my large hands (I won't post it if I get urushi on the pen). For anyone who has experience with one or both of these models, can you comfortably use them unposted? For reference, I find a Pelikan M1000 very comfortable unposted, Parker 51 posted, Sailor 1911L posted. Thank you!

 

 

[arcfide]

I have medium sized male hands and I don't consider the Pro Gear too short for me unposted. I also don't consider a 149 MB too short either in this regard. You can check online to see the relative lengths of these pens, and that should give you a clear picture. For reference, I also consider the #3775 Century perfectly usable unposted. 

 

I already had a lot of cigar shaped pens, and so I picked up the Pro Gear to differentiate it from my 149 and its ilk. My daughter thinks the flat tops on pens looks "cooler" and less "old fashioned and ugly" but what does she know? 🙂 I also liked the anchor on the finial. 

[whichwatch]

Left to right in picture:  1911L, KoP Pro Gear, KoP 1911, Pelikan 1000, posted 1911L

 

I hope this helps

 

[jandrese]

I have fairly large hands and don’t like the KOP PG or the standard 1911 because of it. Those are okay posted more or less but I rarely post. 

[WLSpec]

Thank you for your responses. Based on the fact that the KOP Pro-Gear is shorter in whichwatch's photo, it is most likely too short for me. One more question - is the ebonite KOP the same length as the resin 1911 (I also am considering this one, though it is a bit more pricy)

[zaddick]

18 minutes ago, WLSpec said:

Thank you for your responses. Based on the fact that the KOP Pro-Gear is shorter in whichwatch's photo, it is most likely too short for me. One more question - is the ebonite KOP the same length as the resin 1911 (I also am considering this one, though it is a bit more pricy)

Yes. The ebonite has no trim other than the clip and the section ring. It is a good base for urushi work.

[A Smug Dill]

On 2/1/2021 at 1:53 PM, WLSpec said:

One more question - is the ebonite KOP the same length as the resin 1911

 

Even though that detail isn't posted on Sailor Pen's UK site, it (along with a lot else) is findable in the product catalogue published by Sailor on its main site, if you're interested:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[gyasko]

I have HUGE hands and i don’t post my ebonite KoP Profit or my 149s — or any pen longer than V size Watermans.  The KoP is nonetheless very comfortable.  

 

My hands are not a limitation.  As big as they are i can still write with #2 ringtops, standard wooden pencils, Bics — even golf pencils.  I guess the bigger pens — say OS Balance size — work well for me but it’s not as if a standard Balance is uncomfortable.  For extended writing sessions, my pens tend to be large but not the absolute largest: 51s, MB 146s & 400NNs.