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I picked this up at a flea market. Its a Sheaffer white dot but what one is it? Why does the cap not have Sheaffer written on it? After the pictures were taken its soaking in hot water with some dish soap to clean the old ink out. How do I test this pen to make sure its still working and how hard is it to rebuild it if its not working right? Thanks. I paid 14 dollars for it at a flea market.

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I'm guessing that the pen is a Sheaffer Statesman. 

 

The question is, what is under the blind cap?  The pen came in two versions....   If a tube is exposed when you unscrew and pull the blind cap back, then the pen is a Touchdown filler, will use a #15 sac, an 0-ring, and you can restore it yourself.  If a wire, then is a plunger filler, or as Sheaffer repair called it a "wire pen."  This is repairable, but I would not try it if you haven't restored pens before.  Repairing one is not rocket science, but there are a lot of little things that can go wrong - like getting into the pen.

 

The nibs on these pens are usually quite good.  If a plunger filler, it will last a couple of decades if the right materials are used.  I haven't had to redo any that I've done  in the 12 years we've been restoring them.

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7 minutes ago, Ron Z said:

I'm guessing that the pen is a Sheaffer Statesman. 

 

On the other "other board", that was my guess, too. But after typing at the same time as you, I decided to come and look at your explanation, which - not unexpectedly - is far more coherent! 

BTW, Ron: what is your take on soaking pens in "hot water"? I try to avoid that.

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30 minutes ago, JonSzanto said:

BTW, Ron: what is your take on soaking pens in "hot water"? I try to avoid that.

 

Hot water?  NEVER.  The exception is when setting a plastic feed, but that's a topic for another discussion.  But no, there are a lot of risks involved.  I've seen nasty things to plastics that were exposed to hot water, and celluloid that was permanently clouded by exposure to hot water, steam or other hot moisture.  Picture a beautiful, black and pearl that turned cloudy - like a cataract on an eye.

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14 minutes ago, Ron Z said:

Hot water?  NEVER.  The exception is when setting a plastic feed, but that's a topic for another discussion.  But no, there are a lot of risks involved.  I've seen nasty things to plastics that were exposed to hot water, and celluloid that was permanently clouded by exposure to hot water, steam or other hot moisture.  Picture a beautiful, black and pearl that turned cloudy - like a cataract on an eye.

 

Good, that was my understanding and my practice (excepting, as you say, setting an ebonite feed). I saw an indication of this in the OP opening remarks and hope damage has not been done.

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I would assume its called the wire type. Its not exactly a wire but its a metal round about the size of the lead of a pencil maybe a bit smaller diameter. But very close to the size of a pencil lead.

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Looks like what you would call a rod.

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Yup, what the Sheaffer repair people called a "wire" pen.   When I look for the material to make the replacements, I look under stainless wire.

 

So yes, this is a plunger filler.  IMO far better than the Touchdown pens because they hold much more ink, and when properly restored, out last the TD by a very wide  margin.  They're great pens.  Again, repair is not rocket science, but not recommended as your first pen to restore.

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Is the cap on that pen not an original match?  For some reason, I thought the narrow cap band went with an open nib while the triumph nib came with a cap with a wider cap band.  

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That is the correct cap.  There are two sizes of the Triumph nib pens, and it's often difficult to discern which the pen is...  The Statesman is the smaller pen, the Valiant the larger.  It is the Valiant that had the wide cap band.

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