Noodler's El Lawrence - Mini review

[Dimy]

Thanks for the review.

 

I first did not have much impression of the ink but its likable in strange ways, Khakhi greens plucking some strings I wonder...Its nice and might get it later when its available here...

 

So now we go in future for exploring from the eyes of archeologist, its a fun journey indeed. Thanks for that.

[yazeh]

6 hours ago, Dimy said:

Thanks for the review.

 

I first did not have much impression of the ink but its likable in strange ways, Khakhi greens plucking some strings I wonder...Its nice and might get it later when its available here...

 

So now we go in future for exploring from the eyes of archeologist, its a fun journey indeed. Thanks for that.

Thanks for your kind comments

Inks work in mysterious ways. I personally think, they choose us.......

[Dimy]

2 hours ago, yazeh said:

Thanks for your kind comments

Inks work in mysterious ways. I personally think, they choose us.......

Ah the times.....from swords of warriors of age old to pens and inks of warriors today, times change but its always weapons that get to choose us. It would be interesting what we will see for future at this rate

[yazeh]

48 minutes ago, Dimy said:

Ah the times.....from swords of warriors of age old to pens and inks of warriors today, times change but its always weapons that get to choose us. It would be interesting what we will see for future at this rate

We have a poet hidden, somewhere  

[Dimy]

12 hours ago, yazeh said:

We have a poet hidden, somewhere  

[Man O War]

Awesome review!  My favorite quote from T.E. Lawrence and also a nice drawing.

 

I've used this ink in many pens.  It's currently loaded in my Lamy Safari Charcoal with the black EF nib (steel).  No matter the pen, mine ink always comes out black or extremely dark.  It'd be hard to pick it out vs. say Noodler's Heart of Darkness - almost identical.  I can never figure out why.  Tried "shaking" the bottle before filling (think gentle turns like you would to mix the particulate in a shimmering ink).  No change.  Let the bottle settle out for a few days.  No change.

 

I do like it for it's unique qualities (bullet-proof, etc.), and would like it even more if I could get some more of the greenish/khaki hues out of it.  Any thoughts or tricks?

 

Regards,

Ryan

[yazeh]

36 minutes ago, roloughlin said:

Awesome review!  My favorite quote from T.E. Lawrence and also a nice drawing.

 

I've used this ink in many pens.  It's currently loaded in my Lamy Safari Charcoal with the black EF nib (steel).  No matter the pen, mine ink always comes out black or extremely dark.  It'd be hard to pick it out vs. say Noodler's Heart of Darkness - almost identical.  I can never figure out why.  Tried "shaking" the bottle before filling (think gentle turns like you would to mix the particulate in a shimmering ink).  No change.  Let the bottle settle out for a few days.  No change.

 

I do like it for it's unique qualities (bullet-proof, etc.), and would like it even more if I could get some more of the greenish/khaki hues out of it.  Any thoughts or tricks?

 

Regards,

Ryan

Thanks for the compliments

Does your ink look black with wider nib or different EF nib? 

Is your Safari on the dry or wet side? If it's dry writer that might be the case. 

Mine is a Chinese EF (Kaweco style pen) which is wet writer. It actually write wider than a PEN BBS fine. 

 

Another factor is that Noodler's ink are slightly different batch to batch that might be the case.

[Man O War]

I've tried it in wet and dry pens with the same result.  Perhaps it's the batch of ink I have.

[pgcauk]

I have had a bottle of this for a couple of years now. I like the idea of it, but have never quite got it to work in practice. This review and a neighbouring one of Sailor Manyo Shirakashi have plunged me right back into exploring this WWI palette. A bottle of the Sailor is currently with the USPS (so who knows what might happen to it, no movement on the tracking system for over a week now!), currently enpenned are El Lawrence (twice, fine and stub nibs!), De Atramentis' Marone (green iteration) and the wonderful Stipula Calamo Verde Muschiato, with swabs of Burma Road, Oster Bronze, Rikyu Cha and KWZ Hunter standing by!

This morning I tried something that I've never really tried before, dilution, and initial results are very pleasing, giving me a proper drab rather than an off black. Don't think we'll ever get much shading, but the Muschiato is a star for that!

Might try the same with the (also very dark) Hunter Green later?

Thanks for the inspiration! This is a fascinating color zone!

[yazeh]

 

14 minutes ago, pgcauk said:

Thanks for the inspiration! This is a fascinating color zone!

Most welcome 

[Man O War]

1 hour ago, pgcauk said:

 

This morning I tried something that I've never really tried before, dilution, and initial results are very pleasing, giving me a proper drab rather than an off black.

 

Any way we can get a look at the diluted El Lawrence.  Did you just add a bit of water?

[pgcauk]

21 minutes ago, Man O War said:

 

Any way we can get a look at the diluted El Lawrence.  Did you just add a bit of water?

Here's a (quick, underlit) phone pic.

Impression is that El Lawrence is the greyest, Muschiato the brownest and Maron (in this instance) the greenest. I like them all!! If Maron was reliable, it would be a top ink, but I have four bottles and each has its own hue (two are greenish, two are taupe). I am hoping Shirakashi will provide a reliable alternative?

ps Did you see the nice illustration made with El Lawrence over at Jet Pens? Recommended!

Edited December 23, 2020 by pgcauk
Situate picture

[Man O War]

14 minutes ago, pgcauk said:

Here's a (quick, underlit) phone pic.

Impression is that El Lawrence is the greyest, Muschiato the brownest and Maron (in this instance) the greenest. I like them all!! If Maron was reliable, it would be a top ink, but I have four bottles and each has its own hue (two are greenish, two are taupe). I am hoping Shirakashi will provide a reliable alternative?

ps Did you see the nice illustration made with El Lawrence over at Jet Pens? Recommended!

 

Thanks for the picture!  Your dilution is so much better than my non-diluted, which appears so black, i.e. Noodler's HoD.  Yours looks like something you'd find in a journal or letter written a hundred years ago.  Love that!

 

I did see that illustration - very awesome indeed.  The picture on the bottle that Nathan uses on El Lawrence is really cool too.  Inspired me to read two biographies of T.E. Lawrence.  Fascinating person.  Makes you wonder what the modern Middle East would be today had the Brits, and especially the French, paid more attention to him during the treaty discussions ending WWI.  A classic history "What If."

 

Scared to death to put it in my Parker 51 though (or Sheaffer Snorkels).  Never had Noodler's inks damage any pens before, but I'd hate to start now.  That's a rather divisive topic, I recognize.  And no, never used Bay State Blue!  LOL  😃

 

Ryan 

[yazeh]

52 minutes ago, pgcauk said:

Here's a (quick, underlit) phone pic.

 

Impression is that El Lawrence is the greyest, Muschiato the brownest and Maron (in this instance) the greenest. I like them all!! If Maron was reliable, it would be a top ink, but I have four bottles and each has its own hue (two are greenish, two are taupe). I am hoping Shirakashi will provide a reliable alternative?

ps Did you see the nice illustration made with El Lawrence over at Jet Pens? Recommended!

Thanks pg. Loved the drawing on jet pens. But much appreciate your handwriting....Very vintage-y

 

[pgcauk]

Still tinkering me!

Yet to master barbed wire, I tried some words instead. Top and bottom is dilute El Lawrence, in between are Muschiato, Marone and Oster Bronze - which always seems like the pefect ink until you use it!

 

Science wise, there was none, just added faucet water to the converter until it was full!

I never read "Seven Pillars", but I did read "The Mint", which came from quite an interesting psychology!

[yazeh]

Nice shading with El Lawrence. 

What are the nibs you use?

Also what is Muschiato, Marone? 

[pgcauk]

49 minutes ago, yazeh said:

Nice shading with El Lawrence. 

What are the nibs you use?

Also what is Muschiato, Marone? 

Stipula Calamo Verde Muschiato

De Atramentis' Marone (also labelled as Jean Jaques Rousseau).

Nibs here are cheapies! A couple of old Metros from the reserve stack fitted with stub nibs from the Pilot Penmanship. The broader, wetter writing is Brause Bandzug dip-pen nibs.

Muschiato is a magnificent shading ink, mossy brown, but the dilute El Lawrence, which I am finding more mossy grey, is getting close. Just writing out a longer comparison passage from (just rediscovered!) Hugh Selwyn Mauberly, to follow!

[pgcauk]

Oops- Penmanship = (very) EF, Plumix = Medium Stub. All nicely interchangeable!

Here's Hugh:

[yazeh]

Thanks.

Bronze and Marone look very close, hence my confusion. 

The diluted El Lawrence, reminds me of old iron gall manuscripts, when the ink turns into "brown".....

Funny I would've never guessed that was Ef. That looks like stub to my untrained eyes

[Man O War]

19 hours ago, pgcauk said:

 

 

19 hours ago, pgcauk said:

 

 

Science wise, there was none, just added faucet water to the converter until it was full!

I never read "Seven Pillars", but I did read "The Mint", which came from quite an interesting psychology!

 

In the “science wise” vein, what would you say the proportion of water to ink was?

 

Thanks,

Ryan