Jump to content

Airmail/wality 69 Family.


hari317

Recommended Posts

On 3/4/2021 at 1:41 AM, mhguda said:

Thanks for your response! that narrows it down to finding some of this paper to buy...

I'm glad about how the notebook is made - there's a copyshop about 30 minutes' drive from home where they do that, and I have very good experience with their service. So it remains for me to find a way to get me some of that nice paper...

JK Cedar has been described as "absorbent" by some. If ITC's Paperkraft notebooks are sold over there then you should definitely try them.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 111
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • hari317

    37

  • cvk

    19

  • HartGummi

    9

  • Dimy

    9

Top Posters In This Topic

Posted Images

thanks, I will look into it...

a fountain pen is physics in action... Proud member of the SuperPinks

fpn_1425200643__fpn_1425160066__super_pi

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

I already have 'enough' Wality pens, but when I saw this 69A...... My resolve lasted about 0.068 seconds.

My first Wality was a 69 EB exactly the same as the other pen in the image.

I wondered why the Wality nibs are so variable in smoothness. When I was a complete newbie to Indian Eyedropper pens I tossed a 69EB in the trash thinking it was no good. The truth was that I really ought to have sought education here.

wality 1.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 1 month later...
  • 1 month later...

993706EB-5FA1-4357-9874-568FE93077BC.jpeg.3c34d1a8abfd709c1c5a9c904c81d15d.jpeg


 

B3E51B9B-A896-4B97-A1EC-B50676EF9BFF.jpeg.7de8feebe5800e93637acd5d00601067.jpeg

 

Trying out this lovely combination on my 69TL. Bock two tone steel nib BB, sheaffer school pen feed, friction fit in the section. Quink blue black ink. 

E926E8C6-760B-4A7C-B4A4-3BE9778A536D.jpeg.ce1178f1d4285eacd63a1d1166c11b6b.jpeg

 

1BBF6370-6326-4AB5-8181-687B4C2C5142.jpeg.2d80b7d5a42020be1a20250bfa1b1f24.jpeg

In case you wish to write to me, pls use ONLY email by clicking here. I do not check PMs. Thank you.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

13 hours ago, hari317 said:

993706EB-5FA1-4357-9874-568FE93077BC.jpeg.3c34d1a8abfd709c1c5a9c904c81d15d.jpeg


 

B3E51B9B-A896-4B97-A1EC-B50676EF9BFF.jpeg.7de8feebe5800e93637acd5d00601067.jpeg

 

Trying out this lovely combination on my 69TL. Bock two tone steel nib BB, sheaffer school pen feed, friction fit in the section. Quink blue black ink. 

E926E8C6-760B-4A7C-B4A4-3BE9778A536D.jpeg.ce1178f1d4285eacd63a1d1166c11b6b.jpeg

 

1BBF6370-6326-4AB5-8181-687B4C2C5142.jpeg.2d80b7d5a42020be1a20250bfa1b1f24.jpeg

looking wonderful.. thanks for sharing..

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Yohaanrods said:

Wow, hari sir.... The feed mightve been an easy fit!? What about the nib? 

I place and align the nib over the feed outside the pen and push them in together ensuring no relative motion. it was easy to push them in to the correct depth. On this particular pen the inner cap’s depth was 20mm. Sometimes it can be as low as 18. So you have to measure and set the nib accordingly. 

In case you wish to write to me, pls use ONLY email by clicking here. I do not check PMs. Thank you.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It’s v easy to determine the inner cap depth. 

 

You will need a thin rod and a mm scale. A kulfi stick or chop stick will also work as the rod. 

 

Take the wooden chop stick. 

Insert it fully into the cap. 

Mark a line along cap lip on the chop stick using a pencil. 

Now insert the chop stick again so that it rests on the lip of the inner cap instead of bottom of cap. Mark a line on chop stick along cap lip at this position. 

Now you have two lines on the  chop stick. 

 

Measure the distance between these two lines. This is the max allowable exposed length of the nib. 

 

Keep the exposed length of nib outside the section less than this value. 

 

You need not even mark the positions on the chop stick using a pencil. Simply hold the position using your thumbnail and measure it against the scale. Note it. Difference between the two noted lengths is your inner cap depth. 

 

I use the depth rod of my calipers to do the same job. 

 

For most of you this not new information. Hope this helps a newbie. 

 

In case you wish to write to me, pls use ONLY email by clicking here. I do not check PMs. Thank you.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Here are my Airmails. Thanks to the advice from Hari sir, I was able to replace stock feed on the Blue with Sheaffer NN feed. :)

Hopefully that takes care of the burping. 

image.thumb.png.1435578d0cc6ac995ac25ba2f0f91818.pngimage.thumb.png.c071bddaf65f2ad7ef8fb2ef78a426bb.pngimage.thumb.png.c9134bf462c0da3cb50ec09b5cc37cb0.pngimage.thumb.png.263ff355a0f69d969455b3cb9ae242df.png

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, cvk said:

Here are my Airmails. Thanks to the advice from Hari sir, I was able to replace stock feed on the Blue with Sheaffer NN feed. :)

Hopefully that takes care of the burping. 

image.thumb.png.1435578d0cc6ac995ac25ba2f0f91818.pngimage.thumb.png.c071bddaf65f2ad7ef8fb2ef78a426bb.pngimage.thumb.png.c9134bf462c0da3cb50ec09b5cc37cb0.pngimage.thumb.png.263ff355a0f69d969455b3cb9ae242df.png

 

Do apply silicone grease on the section threads. You should be able to write the pen dry without burping. Keep us posted on how it worked for you. Best, 

In case you wish to write to me, pls use ONLY email by clicking here. I do not check PMs. Thank you.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks. Do all the wality 69s ( esp 69a and 69eb) and 71 jt use the same section? So we can use sheaffer feed with them too?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

51 minutes ago, cvk said:

Thanks. Do all the wality 69s ( esp 69a and 69eb) and 71 jt use the same section? So we can use sheaffer feed with them too?

The sections are not always interchangeable. BUT the 69P 69TL 69EB 69A 69LGM 51P 52P/D 71J 71JT 71JB all use the same nib and feed. So the NN feed will fit all these pens. Use the chopstick method described above to determine how much nib should be exposed for each pen. 

Edited by hari317
Added more models that I could think of.

In case you wish to write to me, pls use ONLY email by clicking here. I do not check PMs. Thank you.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

22 minutes ago, hari317 said:

The sections are not always interchangeable. BUT the 69TL 69EB 69A 69LGM 71J 71JT 71JB all use the same nib and feed. So the NN feed will fit all these pens. Use the chopstick method described above to determine how much nib should be exposed for each pen. 

Thanks so much🙏🏼🙏🏼 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

My Wality/Airmail family:

IMG_20210614_083912.thumb.jpg.63fa9fc37c740698f041e200c1af60f0.jpg

 

Far left green 69 EB is my first handmade fountain pen and the first buy from ASA pens,before that I used to buy mostly Chinese pens like Jinhao, Baoer, 

hero  etc..

IMG_20210614_084153.thumb.jpg.2993fb51a28523a450ed58ecefcb1a8d.jpg

 

Sagar Bhowmick

Link to comment
Share on other sites

17 minutes ago, Sagarb said:

My Wality/Airmail family:

IMG_20210614_083912.thumb.jpg.63fa9fc37c740698f041e200c1af60f0.jpg

 

Far left green 69 EB is my first handmade fountain pen and the first buy from ASA pens,before that I used to buy mostly Chinese pens like Jinhao, Baoer, 

hero  etc..

IMG_20210614_084153.thumb.jpg.2993fb51a28523a450ed58ecefcb1a8d.jpg

 

Lovely collection Sagar. Congrats. My first encounter with WALITY was in 1999 at Ahmedabad. The shop had a 69TL on display. ( I did not know the model name at that time). The shopkeeper called it sheet pen. I did not quite understand. He meant to say that the pen was made out of a sheet of acrylic bored out. I still have that pen. I might have paid 40/- for it then.  Later when I moved to Bombay one of the shop keepers below Empire cinema told me that the pens are actually made here in Mumbai. Then I traced the factory location and simply walked in. Wonderful people. Wonderful pens.

Edited by hari317

In case you wish to write to me, pls use ONLY email by clicking here. I do not check PMs. Thank you.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, hari317 said:

Lovely collection Sagar. Congrats. My first encounter with WALITY was in 1999 at Ahmedabad. The shop had a 69TL on display. ( I did not know the model name at that time). The shopkeeper called it sheet pen. I did not quite understand. He meant to say that the pen was made out of a sheet of acrylic bored out. I still have that pen. I might have paid 40/- for it then.  Later when I moved to Bombay one of the shop keepers below Empire cinema told me that the pens are actually made here in Mumbai. Then I traced the factory location and simply walked in. Wonderful people. Wonderful pens.

Thanks Hari. Do you remember you shared your experience at Airmail House here in FPN  few years back? Two pens you bought from there, one was 69 A with black cap and other one was 70 TS as far as I can remember. Later I sent that 70 TS pic to Mr.Nirmal Mirchandani and he told me there was just one piece left for display and he agreed to send it to me.

I have learnt so many things from you about fountain pens Hari. Your pen display on bamboo mat, your nib swapping ideas etc,etc...I have always been enjoyed..I still search for the old posts of yours,but unfortunately in many cases pictures are not being displayed.

Without your permission  i have given your Airmail House venture link below.

 

Sagar Bhowmick

Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, Sagarb said:

Thanks Hari. Do you remember you shared your experience at Airmail House here in FPN  few years back? Two pens you bought from there, one was 69 A with black cap and other one was 70 TS as far as I can remember. Later I sent that 70 TS pic to Mr.Nirmal Mirchandani and he told me there was just one piece left for display and he agreed to send it to me.

I have learnt so many things from you about fountain pens Hari. Your pen display on bamboo mat, your nib swapping ideas etc,etc...I have always been enjoyed..I still search for the old posts of yours,but unfortunately in many cases pictures are not being displayed.

Without your permission  i have given your Airmail House venture link below.

 

I am really glad my posts have been helpful. Yes Nirmal is kind like that. Yes that bamboo mat was my trademark. The pics hosted on photobucket still work. The links have gotten messed up post fpn software upgrade. If you copy the complete link and paste it in your browser you can still view the image. Some of my repair posts I have made into a pdf and hosted in the thread itself. Hope this helps. 

In case you wish to write to me, pls use ONLY email by clicking here. I do not check PMs. Thank you.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This was a custom order directly from Airmail pen co. 69TL in solid black, plain barrel with name engraving. I am using this pen since last few days. Brings back a lot of old memories. 
C0A1B25A-BC81-472E-8191-955983D2429E.jpeg.e79a87b6bcbe2604ca96a0a581c8550e.jpeg

 

218496E5-D323-432B-8057-853567B99DAC.jpeg.4a3a1ac021577eae5ee470d61267cb17.jpeg

 

EF98D976-EEBE-4F82-9FCD-BBC39DA8033B.jpeg.c53ef04f432931adb052980e24bf512d.jpeg

 

6ED777B2-0A9D-49D4-BD23-7D78EC110210.jpeg.0d964ef274c48dac3f4dfc32bcc28561.jpeg

 

 

In case you wish to write to me, pls use ONLY email by clicking here. I do not check PMs. Thank you.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

𝗣𝗲𝗻 : 𝗘𝗻𝗮𝗰𝗼 𝟲𝟵 𝗕𝗮𝗺𝗯𝘂
(Grand daddy of Airmail/ Wality ) 
This is a very special pen from the house of Airmail.
 

 

History : 
A company called  Enayatali & Co. in Mumbai used to get their pens made from Airmail between 1950-70s . 
This pen is a model from 1962. This is one of the earliest demonstrator pen made from the house of Airmail - a design that is now the hallmark of the company. 
The beautiful big nib also a typical Airmail feature. The craftsmanship on the pen is top notch. The beautiful body and use of brass on the cap and clip adds a rich feel to the black cap. 
Mohammed bhai the owner of Enayatali & Co. was graceful to sell this pen to me. This is a unique model and not many have survived the test of time. Holding on to a piece of history and legacy makes you only feel more responsible for it. 

Sharing it with all Wality/ Airmail lovers. 

image_67157505.JPG

image_50428161.JPG

image_50405633.JPG

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Most Contributions

    1. amberleadavis
      amberleadavis
      43844
    2. PAKMAN
      PAKMAN
      33494
    3. Ghost Plane
      Ghost Plane
      28220
    4. inkstainedruth
      inkstainedruth
      26624
    5. jar
      jar
      26101
  • Upcoming Events

  • Blog Comments

    • Shanghai Knife Dude
      I have the Sailor Naginata and some fancy blade nibs coming after 2022 by a number of new workshop from China.  With all my respect, IMHO, they are all (bleep) in doing chinese characters.  Go use a bush, or at least a bush pen. 
    • A Smug Dill
      It is the reason why I'm so keen on the idea of a personal library — of pens, nibs, inks, paper products, etc. — and spent so much money, as well as time and effort, to “build” it for myself (because I can't simply remember everything, especially as I'm getting older fast) and my wife, so that we can “know”; and, instead of just disposing of what displeased us, or even just not good enough to be “given the time of day” against competition from >500 other pens and >500 other inks for our at
    • adamselene
      Agreed.  And I think it’s good to be aware of this early on and think about at the point of buying rather than rationalizing a purchase..
    • A Smug Dill
      Alas, one cannot know “good” without some idea of “bad” against which to contrast; and, as one of my former bosses (back when I was in my twenties) used to say, “on the scale of good to bad…”, it's a spectrum, not a dichotomy. Whereas subjectively acceptable (or tolerable) and unacceptable may well be a dichotomy to someone, and finding whether the threshold or cusp between them lies takes experiencing many degrees of less-than-ideal, especially if the decision is somehow influenced by factors o
    • adamselene
      I got my first real fountain pen on my 60th birthday and many hundreds of pens later I’ve often thought of what I should’ve known in the beginning. I have many pens, the majority of which have some objectionable feature. If they are too delicate, or can’t be posted, or they are too precious to face losing , still they are users, but only in very limited environments..  I have a big disliking for pens that have the cap jump into the air and fly off. I object to Pens that dry out, or leave blobs o
  • Chatbox

    You don't have permission to chat.
    Load More
  • Files






×
×
  • Create New...