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Are Japanese gold nibs better than those made by Jowo or Bock?

 

I have several 14k Sailor, Pilot and Platinum nibs as well as many 21k Sailor. None of these nibs has any flow problems with with all inks and papers I tested. (I haven't yet tested all my combinations.)

I have many Jowo/Bock #5/#6 which have flow problems, especially with down-strokes. I think #8 have less problems.

 

Most of my nibs are M, F or EF.

 

What is your experience?

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Are Japanese gold nibs better than those made by Jowo or Bock?_...‹snip›... What is your experience?

 

I'm afraid I don't have any gold nibs made by JoWo or Bock — and quite disinclined to acquire any — to make the comparison in answer to your question.

 

I have several 14k Sailor, Pilot and Platinum nibs as well as many 21k Sailor. None of these nibs has any flow problems with with all inks and papers I tested. (I haven't yet tested all my combinations.)

I have many Jowo/Bock #5/#6 which have flow problems,

What is the gold content of these JoWo and Bock nibs of which you speak?

 

Are these nibs still coupled with the feeds made and fitted by the original nib (or pen) manufacturers? If not, then in the spirit of comparing like for like, how many of your gold Sailor, Pilot and Platinum nibs have you removed from the pens in which they originally came and transplanted onto something else?

I endeavour to be frank and truthful in what I write, show or otherwise present, when I relate my first-hand experiences that are not independently verifiable; and link to third-party content where I can, when I make a claim or refute a statement of fact in a thread. If there is something you can verify for yourself, I entreat you to do so, and judge for yourself what is right, correct, and valid. I may be wrong, and my position or say-so is no more authoritative and carries no more weight than anyone else's here.

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> What is the gold content of these JoWo and Bock nibs of which you speak?

18k

 

No transplantation, everything is still original.

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Thank you for your answers. I'm now more disinclined to buy pens fitted with gold JoWo or Bock nibs than ever!

I endeavour to be frank and truthful in what I write, show or otherwise present, when I relate my first-hand experiences that are not independently verifiable; and link to third-party content where I can, when I make a claim or refute a statement of fact in a thread. If there is something you can verify for yourself, I entreat you to do so, and judge for yourself what is right, correct, and valid. I may be wrong, and my position or say-so is no more authoritative and carries no more weight than anyone else's here.

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Thank you for sharing your experience.

 

I have thought, now and then, of upgrading the Bock steel nib on my Kaweco Sport to a gold nib, because I find the steel nib on that pen unsatisfactory--it feels flimsy, like the top of a cat food can, and has had a tendency to skip on upstrokes, even after ministrations by an experienced person--but comments on this forum have led me to expect that a Kaweco gold nib, albeit much more expensive than the steel, would not be an improvement on the steel one. To hear of someone who has had problems with multiple gold nibs fro JoWo and Bock confirms me in my decision not to upgrade.

 

Like you, mke, I have been consistently pleased with my Japanese gold nibs. I have only two JoWo steel nibs. One is probably my favorite steel nib, but given that it has a custom grind (cursive italic by Nivardo Sanchez of Peyton Street Pens), it cannot be considered representative. The other is a Monteverde stub nib, which does not have flow "problems"--that the flow is dry I would not call a problem, because I have inks to complement it dryness--but it feels unwieldy, as if I were writing with a garden trowel.

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I've not experienced any issue with Jowo #5/#6 however mine are from either FC or PSP and were tested and tuned prior to shipping. I had enough issues with Bock to the extent that I now forgo any pen with one installed.

 

Yet there is bound to be someone who can write the exact opposite.

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