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As someone living in Japan, I don't need a proxy service for myself. However, occasionally, I buy stuff for other people. At the moment, without EMS to many countries, I could only send by DHL. Fees are extreme because I don't get the reductions e.g. zenmarket gets. If I could send it via zenmarket, that would dramatically reduce the shipping fee.

 

If someone wants to buy something in Japan, do they need to ask the proxy service to buy it for them? Or could they buy it for themselves and just give the proxy service address as receiving address?

How does such a proxy service work?

 

Cam someone give me an example? Example zenmarket.

Thanks.

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If you go to Yahoo Japan you will see a banner above each page inviting overseas buyers to click here to buy the item. Service is through company named Buyee. You register with them and provide your credit card information and bid through them for your item.

 

You can bid as many times as you like. There are no restrictions except for certain sellers with dubious track records. if you win, Buyee will receive your items, store them for up to one month (90 days during COVID-19), and send to you when you request shipment. You re charged two times. First, when winning the auction. Second, when shipping. The second fee includes domestic shipping to Buyee and international shipping.

 

Buyee's fee is about 10%. Varies with auction price. They occasionally have sales with lower fees and offer coupons with discounts.

 

I use Buyee and also bid directly on Yahoo. Bidding directly on Yahoo Japan is possible if you have either a Japanese credit card or Japanese bank account. Some overseas credit cards may be accepted to establish an account. The problem will be payment to the seller. It is usually done through bank transfer and payment is made almost immediately after purchase. I've not used cards so don't know more of this option. You should be able to arrange a bank transfer if your bank has a branch in Japan. However, it is pricey and cumbersome.

 

Alternately, find a friend in Japan who is willing to assist you for a fee. You might be able to reduce your cost to 5% plus shipping costs.

 

You are in Japan so the banner will not be shown. Go to their website buyee.jp.

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In the case of Zenmarket, you would send a link (ex. Amazon) and it will either be automatically be purchasable or be reviewed. In the case of Yahoo auctions purchasing, bidding is real time if you don't use a sniping call.

 

So yes, you can have Zenmarket send to another address.

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I've used Buyee many times for Yahoo Auctions. They bid on your behalf and then forward it on two you. There are stages: 1. You connect your Paypal so they debit you as the bid goes in, and then 2. when you win, you select from various services: local shipping to warehouse -> item verification -> forwarding. Each stage has different options and associated costs. There are limits as to how much you can bid (you can petition them to increase this each auction if necessary) and there are also a few restricted items, but generally it's pretty simple.

For non-auction purchases I prefer to use White Rabbit Press, Though they're slightly more expensive, they are native English speakers, have much better customer service, and will approach sellers on your behalf. Among other things they've managed to buy me hand-carved netsukes from artisans in the middle of nowhere, all without a hitch...

Too many pens; too little writing.

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Can anyone make a fee calculation of a recent Zenmarket buy open or send me by DM (I will anonymize it and add to this thread) ?

 

Details like

  • Price at amazon/rakuten/... plus some details (free shipping or not)
  • Handling fees, detailed
  • Storage fees
  • Shipment inside Japan
  • International shipment details are not needed, that is well explained at their site

They make a big mystery out of it, instead of showing some examples.

 

Thank you.

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I’ve used Zenmarket to ship out dozens of items and the fee structure is very simple. There is a 3.5% fee for adding money into Zenmarket from PayPal or any other payment sources (you can pay in USD and Zenmarket automatically converts to yen, sans a 3.5% standard PayPal fee). They also charge 300 yen per item you buy through them. You will also have to pay Japan domestic shipping to their Osaka warehouse. Other than that, Zenmarket charges no other fees - ex: no fee for consolidating multiple items into one package, no fee for shipping out a package (other than you being responsible for the cost of the actual international shipping obviously), and free storage within 60 days.

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I once argued about the Japanese not being interested in selling goods to other places, but now I partly agree with the other answerers - Japan is indeed exporting a lot of goods.
However, it's important to note that this is about the "international trade" or "commercial wholesale" level of things. Since, as soon as we are talking about pure retail... then the answer is a big, fat, "no".
Sadly, 95 out of 100 online shops in Japan are neither interested nor willing to ship anything to overseas addresses.
This is precisely why all the many "proxy shipping" services such as fromjapan.com or Noppin thrive. Plus few other Lowest priced private proxies.

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6 hours ago, randyisscott said:

I once argued about the Japanese not being interested in selling goods to other places, but now I partly agree with the other answerers - Japan is indeed exporting a lot of goods.
However, it's important to note that this is about the "international trade" or "commercial wholesale" level of things. Since, as soon as we are talking about pure retail... then the answer is a big, fat, "no".
Sadly, 95 out of 100 online shops in Japan are neither interested nor willing to ship anything to overseas addresses.
This is precisely why all the many "proxy shipping" services such as fromjapan.com or Noppin thrive. Plus few other Lowest priced private proxies.

 

I wonder how much of that is due to the pen companies themselves? I presume the Japanese shops can't sell internationally as Sailor/Platinum/Pilot stop them as it'll be treading on the regional distributor's toes?

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How does Zenmarket (or any of the others actually?) deal with collecting sales tax?  Hopefully they are assuming that I'll take care of it myself.

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4 hours ago, Ste_S said:

 

I wonder how much of that is due to the pen companies themselves? I presume the Japanese shops can't sell internationally as Sailor/Platinum/Pilot stop them as it'll be treading on the regional distributor's toes?

 

Sailor replied to one of my queries ages ago that the company recommends that I buy from its authorised retailers overseas, but I don't think it actively forbids Japanese retailers from taking orders with overseas delivery addresses. Nagasawa Stationery Centre has accepted my orders through its (now defunct) Rakuten Global Market shopfront and shipped Sailor pens and inks to me directly to me in Australia in the past. It was Rakuten that eventually stopped sellers on it from shipping orders overseas directly, because it was pushing its Rakuten Global Express forwarding service business.

 

From Nagasawa Stationery Centre's independent online shop's web pages, it seems shipping directly is still possible.

https://www.nagasawa-shop.jp/html/info.html

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amazon.jp ships outside japan too, when you go to site it asks if you want to change shipping location if it detects your location isn't inside japan

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49 minutes ago, LiquidInk said:

amazon.jp ships outside japan too,

 

Yes, but alas, not to delivery addresses in Australia. I've had to use a forwarding (as opposed to proxy) service to receive goods I ordered from Amazon Japan.

I endeavour to be frank and truthful in what I write, show or otherwise present, when I relate my first-hand experiences that are not independently verifiable; and link to third-party content where I can, when I make a claim or refute a statement of fact in a thread. If there is something you can verify for yourself, I entreat you to do so, and judge for yourself what is right, correct for valid. I may be wrong, and my position or say-so is no more authoritative and carries no more weight than anyone else's here.

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@XYZZY

> collecting sales tax

 

Typically, it is the shipper (UPS, Fedex, DHL, whatever - but not postal services) who informs the customs office by mail or fax, that the following shipment will arrive - they add scans of the papers attached to the parcel.

The custom office then checks the documents. If they have questions they can flag the shipment for further inspection after it has landed or give the OK to proceed.

They also inform the shipper to collect any tax required. The shipper then charges the receiver for the cost of this procedure.

 

The mystery starts why sometimes you don't have to pay taxes even if the declared worth is way above the threshold for paying import taxes etc.

 

I don't know how this works in reality in other countries than Japan where I live.

 

 

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