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Appelboom’s email says: “The rumor is that the characteristic inlaid nib is made by Sailor in Japan, but this is not confirmed yet.”

 

That would be good news. Previously the inlaid nib was made by Bock who made them well but I always thought detail was missing. Makes sense that Sailor would make them considering they make the Cross Peerless nib (flagship). Detail would be better than Bock imho but nib sizes may write more like eastern sizes than western. Either way I would definitely purchase a Legacy with a nib made by Sailor.

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That would be good news. Previously the inlaid nib was made by Bock who made them well but I always thought detail was missing. Makes sense that Sailor would make them considering they make the Cross Peerless nib (flagship). Detail would be better than Bock imho but nib sizes may write more like eastern sizes than western. Either way I would definitely purchase a Legacy with a nib made by Sailor.

Cross had Sailor make the inlaid nib for their discontinued Verve, which was one awesome writer, so I think a Sheaffer Legacy with another Sailor made inlaid nib will be great! I have the Sheaffer Legacy Heritage Palladium, and it's a well made wonderful writer, and that inlaid nib is beautiful. I'm so glad Sheaffer/Cross is bringing the Legacy back. There really isn't anyone else making a pen with an inlaid nib these days, other than the Waterman Carene, so it will be a very welcome option. I always preferred the looks of the Sheaffer inlaid nib from the Pen For Men and all the different iterations of the original PFM with that inlaid nib to the Legacy Heritage.

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How nice -- the nib size is actually stamped on the nib (rather being a quick to wear off rubber stamped mark on the underside of the section)

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How nice -- the nib size is actually stamped on the nib (rather being a quick to wear off rubber stamped mark on the underside of the section)

 

Where did you get that information?

 

Oh I found it in the pictures, the nib size is indeed stamped on the nib!

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To really invigorate the market, Sheffer/Cross should use the tag line from The Intrigue 2000 :lol: :

 

Now there is ony one choice,

follow,

or get out of the way

https://www.sheaffertarga.com/Sheaffer%201958%20to%202003/Sheaffer%20Pen%201958%20to%202003.html

 

so 17 years later we will see redux of a patterning reminiscent of Murelli Legacy 1, checkers instead of moire which is not a bad thing :P

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I own several legacy IIs with the push touchdown system and 18k nibs. The piston doesn´t even draw up ink and the pens are just too heavy to write comfortably. So new Sheaffer pens don´t appeal to me at the moment. They should bring back the PFMs with thin titanium sections and snorkel filling system. I would buy one before any of the newfangled limited editions MB is churning out these days.

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They should bring back the PFMs with thin titanium sections and snorkel filling system.

 

None of the PFMs had titanium sections. Which model are you referring to? See my avatar, a PFM II.

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Vintage. Cursive italic. Iron gall.

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I know there is no ti PFM just stating what new Sheaffer pens I would buy. An all titanium PFM would be very nice.

 

 

 

None of the PFMs had titanium sections. Which model are you referring to? See my avatar, a PFM II.

 

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I know there is no ti PFM just stating what new Sheaffer pens I would buy. An all titanium PFM would be very nice.

 

 

 

 

Er, except a PFM with a thin section would not be a PFM...

Vintage. Cursive italic. Iron gall.

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3 hours ago, silverlifter said:

Appleboom has a video of them:

 

Thank you. They do some of the very best pen videos. Nothing is overdone or dwelled upon too long, but all the salient points are covered. A writing example would have been nice, but I'm already familiar with older Legacy pens. The nib unit certainly looks just like the old ones, with the one possibility (I couldn't quite catch a good glimpse) of a slight difference in the clutch area.

Does anyone know much about the coating process he mentioned? It was said quickly and with a bit of accent, so I wasn't sure what the name/term was.

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Ah, that sounds about right. Will Google.

"When Men differ in Opinion, both Sides ought equally to have the Advantage of being heard by the Publick; and that when Truth and Error have fair Play, the former is always an overmatch for the latter."

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50 minutes ago, JonSzanto said:

Thank you. They do some of the very best pen videos. Nothing is overdone or dwelled upon too long, but all the salient points are covered.

In that video he described the 18k gold nib on the black and chrome models as being palladium plated and then said that the nib on the gold-coloured pen was gold plated.  Don't see how that can be correct.

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In that video he described the 18k gold nib on the black and chrome models as being palladium plated and then said that the nib on the gold-coloured pen was gold plated.  Don't see how that can be correct.

 

I would chalk that up to mainly trying to get all the dialog right in a video. I would assume it is just a gold nib with no plating, except for the palladium one.

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Just to bring the topic alive again for a moment, as now these pens are out: has anyone found out if the nib-making has been outsourced? Last year there was talk about the nibs being done by Sailor, but I truly can't track down any hard information. I happened across some of the new pens for sale from the PenHero eBay pages, and in the description/marketing blurb that is shown, the very last item is "Made in China". That, in and of itself, is no surprise, but now makes me even less likely to think Sailor - or anyone else - is involved in the nibs. 

 

It would be interesting to know a bit more about this. Not an insignificant purchase.

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14 hours ago, JonSzanto said:

... in the description/marketing blurb that is shown, the very last item is "Made in China". That, in and of itself, is no surprise, but now makes me even less likely to think Sailor - or anyone else - is involved in the nibs. 

 

It would be interesting to know a bit more about this. Not an insignificant purchase.

 

I cannot even imagine after-sale support.

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