Mb Egyptomania

[fpupulin]

Well, I think I'm stuck getting an OBB in one and a BP in the other. If I have to have one BP it might as well be from this collection.

 

Does anyone else in the US only see the silver FP on the MB website?

Admittedly not in the US, but in the Doué version I may also see a ballpoint (805,00 €) and a rollerball (905,00 €).

[Mariusz888]

@fpupulin - Thank you for the link to the interesting article. It's always nice to learn something wise. However, I would prefer the Doue to be done in the colors of S.E. Noir.

Edited September 3, 2020 by Mariusz888

[fpupulin]

@fpupulin - Thank you for the link to the interesting article. It's always nice to learn something wise. However, I would prefer the Doue to be done in the colors of S.E. Noir.

 

 

As a matter of personal tastes, I probably also lend toward the black and brass(?) version. It is a beautiful pen, and to my eyes it nicely interpretes the spirit of early 20th century adventurous explorations... Ah, were they not so expensive...

[como]

fpupulin: Many thanks for providing the background information on the Egyptian use of silver from MOMA. Such knowledge always enriches the experience of collecting and using fountain pens of themes. If I may nitpick any imperfection of this pen, it would be the metal section which always seems slim and hard to the touch in this series. Of course the design and the nib (if indeed the same as the Heritage 1912) far outweigh the metal section.

 

Not so sure about this. You may read an interesting account on the use of silver in antique Egypt in a short essay by Deborah Schorsch, curator of the Department of Objects Conservation at the Metropolitan Museum of Art, published in the web pages of the Museum (link here). For long times, Egyptians valued silver more highly than gold and, in many ways, they used it similarly to gold.

 

I am attaching here the photo of a silver Libation Vessel from the collection of the MET (15th century B.C.). The inscription reads: "Given as a blessing of the King to the King's Wife, Manuwai, justified."

 

The body of the Egyptomania Doué by Montblanc is quite justified, too…

 

 

 

 

 

As a matter of personal tastes, I probably also lend toward the black and brass(?) version. It is a beautiful pen, and to my eyes it nicely interpretes the spirit of early 20th century adventurous explorations... Ah, were they not so expensive...

[EliH]

https://www.montblanc.com/en-us/discover/campaign/egyptomania

 

So, these things are shaping up to be quite pricy, at around $1200 CAD, and I was wondering what everyone’s thoughts are regarding the new pens.

 

They do sport the lovely Heritage nibs with a nice new imprint, which is great. They are c/c pens, according to several retailers’ sites, though I haven’t read that on a Montblanc page yet. The silver trim model’s barrel is not sterling silver, but “vintage palladium-coated fittings”. (https://luxurylaunches.com/other_stuff/montblancs-new-heritage-egyptomania-collection-of-writing-instruments-features-design-and-authentic-hieroglyphics-from-ancient-egypt.php)

 

I don’t know how I feel about the step down from the barrel to the slim section, or the weathered look of the plated furniture. The contrast between the bright, highly polished silver section and nib and the worn looking barrel and cap fittings might be a bit odd.

 

Overall, I suppose it’s a series of pens I ought to see in person before I make any real judgments.

 

What do you folks think?

 

EDIT: now I’m seeing them advertised as piston fillers: https://www.lacouronneducomte.nl/webstore/main/montblanc-egyptomania-resin-fountain-p-14593.html

 

I suppose we ought to wait for official word from Montblanc on that.

Edited September 6, 2020 by EliH

[como]

EliH: I like the design and the nib. The filling system (captive converter, it seems) and the metal section are the elements that I like less. The prices, well, it's Montblanc.

 

 

What do you folks think?

[fpupulin]

 

What do you folks think?

 

 

Given that, in all probability, I will not buy this pen because for my taste it is a bit too thin, nevertheless in general a pen is for me somewhat like an organism, a whole made up of all its parts as they are made, something that I like or dislike despite its defects or virtues.

 

I quite like the Egyptomania doué version, the more I observe it the more it convinces me, and then for me it ceases to be important if the silver is not silver (I suspected it because the price difference with the completely resin version is too modest), if the pen is filled via a cartridge or a piston or a captive converter...

 

It has never happened to me not to buy a pen because I would have made it a little different in some detail. If I decide to buy it, it is because I accept it as it is. Or, simply, I don't.

 

Montblanc pens are usually too expensive for my income, so I very rarely buy them, and Egyptomania is not exception. However, it is my impression that the identification by Montblanc's marketing specialists of the potential clients for their products - to that given price - is quite spot on, as most of their limited an special editions are usually completely sold out in a few years.

[admmarcos]

Admittedly not in the US, but in the Doué version I may also see a ballpoint (805,00 €) and a rollerball (905,00 €).

Too expensive....

[nibtip]

stilografica.it points it as a piston filler too.

 

If it's the case, and after a tryout, i will buy one or the other.

the golden (35 grs), or the silver (45 grs)

then have the shop send it to Montblanc for a nib change to F.

I have a -20% discount voucher.

If it were c/c then i'll pass my turn

[sebastel23]

according to my b&m shop (heidelberg, germany), they are available in F and M from the factory. you only need to order accordingly.

[uticarose]

Retailers are taking orders now (early September 2020) for delivery late September.

 

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Looks good to me, although its hard to tell from photos (and specs) available whether the cap is shorter than usual. If it is, Id like it better.

Edited September 7, 2020 by TexasCollector

[CS388]

Retailers are taking orders now (early September 2020) for delivery late September.

 

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Looks good to me, although its hard to tell from photos (and specs) available whether the cap is shorter than usual. If it is, Id like it better.

From the picture you have posted, I'd say that looks like a turning knob - so hopefully a piston filler.

(I mean - it really should be, shouldn't it? Isn't that one of the things which differentiates real pen manufacturers from the new kids on the block, who are making pretty pens with cartridges/converters inside them?)

 

Pleased to see that the step-down on the section doesn't look as harsh as I feared.

Only seen a couple of pictures, so far - but, this looks like something I could be interested in.

 

Thanks.

[MoriartyR]

It will be the same filling system as the previous Heritage pens - a captive converter. You can call it a piston filler if you like. A converter is a piston mechanism, and for these pens the converter is sealed inside the pen and operated by turning the knob at the end of the barrel. The ink capacity will be the same as a regular converter, but it’s a small, slim pen anyway so that should be no surprise.

 

Oddly the Montblanc website says the black version has a plastic barrel but I assume it must really be lacquer over a metal body, judging by the weight. I certainly hope so. The other Heritage pens were all lacquered metal, which gives these small pens a feeling of quality and solidity, and I think the Rouge et Noir pen description also wrongly stated that the barrel was plastic.

Edited September 8, 2020 by MoriartyR

[GOTO10]

Stopped by my local boutique on Friday and left the store with these beauties.

 

 

The pen is a Doue but it's off to MB for a nib swap to OBB. I only really spent a short period of time with the pen but it's not as heavy as I had worried.

 

I feel the Doue looks better in person than in pictures.

[CS388]

It will be the same filling system as the previous Heritage pens - a captive converter. You can call it a piston filler if you like. A converter is a piston mechanism, and for these pens the converter is sealed inside the pen and operated by turning the knob at the end of the barrel. The ink capacity will be the same as a regular converter,

 

 

Well, that's very disappointing.

 

I guess that the current market is satisfied with this, but I can't reason why a company with Montblanc's heritage and experience couldn't have made a 'real' piston filler, at this price point?

 

Maybe I'll just stick with the Meisterstucks.

 

Thanks for the information.

[ljz]

It will be the same filling system as the previous Heritage pens - a captive converter. You can call it a piston filler if you like. A converter is a piston mechanism, and for these pens the converter is sealed inside the pen and operated by turning the knob at the end of the barrel. The ink capacity will be the same as a regular converter, but it’s a small, slim pen anyway so that should be no surprise.

 

Oddly the Montblanc website says the black version has a plastic barrel but I assume it must really be lacquer over a metal body, judging by the weight. I certainly hope so. The other Heritage pens were all lacquered metal, which gives these small pens a feeling of quality and solidity, and I think the Rouge et Noir pen description also wrongly stated that the barrel was plastic.

The cap is however made of resin.

[fpupulin]

I am reading Montblanc's description of the pens, which states they are (both) 13.8 mm in diameter. Looking at the photographs, I can not understand in which point they took the measurements, as almost 14 mm in diameter means that the Egyptomania is quite a thick pen, which I would like. Comparatively, this is half centimeter more than a Meisterstück 146 and 1 mm less than the girth of a 149!

 

Could any of the buddies who already received an Egyptomania pen take a measurement of the body diameter, facet to facet? This would be very useful. Thank you in advance.

[como]

fpupulin: Montblanc must have measured the thickest point of the pen, which is the widest part of the cap. If you look at their measurements on 146 models etc, it seems that they always measure the thickest point of the pen, usually the cap (in 146, 15.5mm) They must have done well with this pen. US site shows that the silver version is sold out already. Silver version on Swiss site only has M nib option left. I see that you are somewhat tempted.

I am reading Montblanc's description of the pens, which states they are (both) 13.8 mm in diameter. Looking at the photographs, I can not understand in which point they took the measurements..

[dbs]

fpupulin: Montblanc must have measured the thickest point of the pen, which is the widest part of the cap. If you look at their measurements on 146 models etc, it seems that they always measure the thickest point of the pen, usually the cap (in 146, 15.5mm) They must have done well with this pen. US site shows that the silver version is sold out already. Silver version on Swiss site only has M nib option left. I see that you are somewhat tempted.

 

US sale has not started yet. He will have enough chance to buy.

Edited September 8, 2020 by dbs

[thygreyt]

This pen seems to be based on the heritage pens... same thread location, VERY similar nib... therefore i must conclude its also a captive converter as it was the case with the 1912, and the heritage pens.